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> a) Most members in favor of keeping the webex meetings for the time being

Correction: most of the people that like to talk over each other in a
large voice conference voiced their approval of voice.  Those that prefer
to wait for pauses to speak were unsurprisingly silent, or tried and
failed to break into the cries of love for webex.

I also prefer IRC, with voice tactically as is useful.

Doug



On 8/18/14, 3:06 PM, "Salvatore Orlando" <sorlando at nicira.com> wrote:

>Hi Trevor,
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>thanks for sharing this minutes!
>I would like to cooperate a bit to this project's developments, possibly
>without ending up being just deadweight.
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>To this aim I have some comments inline.
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>Salvatore
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>On 18 August 2014 22:25, Trevor Vardeman
><trevor.vardeman at rackspace.com> wrote:
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>Agenda items are numbered, and topics, as discussed, are described
>beneath in list format.
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>1) Discuss future of Octavia in light of Neutron-incubator project
>proposal.
>    a) There are many problems with Neutron-Incubator as currently
>described
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> Have you listed your concerns somewhere? AFAICT the incubator definition
>is in progress and feedback is very valuable at this stage.
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>    b) The political happenings in Neutron leave our LBaaS patches under
>review unlikely to land in Juno
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>I am a bit disappointed if you feel like  you have been victims of
>political discussions.
>The truth in my opinion is much simpler, and is that most of the neutron
>core team has prioritised features for achieving parity with nova-network
>or increasing neutron scalability and reliability.
>In my opinion the incubator proposal will improve this situation by
>making the lbaas team a lot less dependent on the neutron core team.
>Considering the level of attention the load balancing team has received I
>would not be surprised if neutron cores are topping your most-hated list!
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>    c) The Incubator proposal doesn't affect Octavia development
>direction, with inclination to distance ourselves from Neutron proper
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>It depends on what do you mean by "proper" here. If you're into a neutron
>incubator, your ultimate path ideally should be integration with neutron.
>Instead if you're planning on total independence, then it might the case
>of considering the typical paths new projects follow. I'm not an expert
>here, but I think that usually starts from stackforge.
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>    d) With the Neutron Incubator proposal in current scope, efforts of
>people pushing forward Neutron LBaaS patches should be re-focused into
>Octavia.
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>Which probably sounds a reasonable thing to do (and a lot less effort for
>you as well) 
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>2) Discuss operator networking requirements (carry-over from last week)
>    a) Both HP and Rackspace seem to agree that as long as Octavia uses
>Neutron-like floating IPs, their networks should be able to work with
>proposed Octavia topologies
>    b) (Blue Box) also wanted to meet with Rackspace's networking team
>during the operator summit a few weeks from now to thoroughly discuss
>network concerns
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>3) Discuss v0.5 component design proposal
>[https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113458/]
>    a) Notification for back-end node health (aka being offline) isn't
>required for 0.5, but is a must have later
>    b) Notification of LB health (HA Proxy, etc) is definitely a
>requirement in 0.5
>    c) Still looking for more feedback on the proposal itself
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>I'll try and find some time to review it.
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>4) Discuss timeline on moving these meetings to IRC.
>    a) Most members in favor of keeping the webex meetings for the time
>being
>    b) One major point was other openstack/stackforge use video meetings
>as their "primary" source as well
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>This is one of the reasons for which I don't attend load balancing
>meetings.
>I find IRC much simpler and effective - and is also fairer to people for
>whom English is not their first language.
>Also, perusing IRC logs is much easier than watch/listen to webex
>recordings.
>Moreover, you'd get minutes for free - and you can control the density
>you want them to have during the meeting!
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>    Sorry for the lack of density.  I forgot to have the meeting
>recorded, but I hope I included some major points.  Feel free to respond
>in line with any more information anyone can recall concerning the
>meeting information.  Thanks!
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>-Trevor
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