[openstack-dev] Operators & Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

Alan Kavanagh alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com
Tue Apr 8 23:02:46 UTC 2014


This is a really good initiative Tom, and from an ops perspective the main frustration we have is on the Neutron side and also on lack to Tool support.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Fifield [mailto:tom at openstack.org] 
Sent: April-06-14 10:23 PM
To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Operators & Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

So far, there's been no comment from anyone working on nova, so there's been no session proposed.

I can, of course, propose a session ... but without buy-in from the project team it's unlikely to be accepted.


Regards,


Tom


On 01/04/14 22:44, Matt Van Winkle wrote:
> So, I've been watching the etherpad and the summit submissions and I
> noticed that there isn't anything for nova.  Maybe I'm off base, but it
> seems like we'd be missing the mark to not have a Developer/Operator's
> exchange on the key product.  Is there anything we can do to get a session
> slotted like these other products?
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
>
> On 3/28/14 2:01 AM, "Tom Fifield" <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to those projects that responded. I've proposed sessions in
>> swift, ceilometer, tripleO and horizon.
>>
>> On 17/03/14 07:54, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Many times we've heard a desire for more feedback and interaction from
>>> users. However, their attendance at design summit sessions is met with
>>> varied success.
>>>
>>> However, last summit, by happy accident, a swift session turned into a
>>> something a lot more user driven. A competent user was able to describe
>>> their use case, and the developers were able to stage a number of
>>> question to them. In this way, some of the assumptions about the way
>>> certain things were implemented, and the various priorities of future
>>> plans became clearer. It worked really well ... perhaps this is
>>> something we'd like to have happen for all the projects?
>>>
>>> *Idea*: Add an "ops" session for each project in the design summit
>>>
>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-ops-dedicated-design-summit-sessions
>>>
>>>
>>> Most operators running OpenStack tend to treat it more holistically than
>>> those coding it. They are aware of, but don't necessarily think or work
>>> in terms of project  breakdowns. To this end, I'd imagine the such
>>> sessions would:
>>>
>>>    * have a primary purpose for developers to ask the operators to answer
>>>      questions, and request information
>>>
>>>    * allow operators to tell the developers things (give feedback) as a
>>>      secondary purpose that could potentially be covered better in a
>>>      cross-project session
>>>
>>>    * need good moderation, for example to push operator-to-operator
>>>      discussion into forums with more time available (eg
>>>      https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-ops-unconference-RFC )
>>>
>>>    * be reinforced by having volunteer "good" users in potentially every
>>>      design summit session
>>>      (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-ops-in-design-sessions )
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, just a strawman - please jump on the etherpad
>>>
>>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-ops-dedicated-design-summit-session
>>> s)
>>> or leave your replies here!
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
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