[openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

Mike Spreitzer mspreitz at us.ibm.com
Mon Sep 16 20:11:08 UTC 2013


"data processing" is surely a superset of "big data".  Either, by itself, 
is way too vague.  But the wording that many people favor, which I will 
quote again, uses the vague term in a qualified way that makes it 
appropriately specific, IMHO.  Here is the wording again:

``To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to 
deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management, 
monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of 
OpenStack.''

I think that saying "related Big Data projects" after "Hadoop" is fairly 
clear.  OTOH, I would not mind replacing "Hadoop and related Big Data 
projects" with "the Hadoop ecosystem".

Regards,
Mike

Matthew Farrellee <matt at redhat.com> wrote on 09/16/2013 02:39:20 PM:

> From: Matthew Farrellee <matt at redhat.com>
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List 
<openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>, 
> Date: 09/16/2013 02:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission 
statement
> 
> IMHO, Big Data is even more nebulous and currently being pulled in many 
> directions. Hadoop-as-a-Service may be too narrow. So, something in 
> between, such as Data Processing, is a good balance.
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> matt
> 
> On 09/13/2013 08:37 AM, Abhishek Lahiri wrote:
> > IMHO data processing is too board , it makes more sense to clarify 
this
> > program as big data as a service or simply 
openstack-Hadoop-as-a-service.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Abhishek Lahiri
> >
> > On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Nirmal Ranganathan <rnirmal at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rnirmal at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Erik Bergenholtz
> >> <ebergenholtz at hortonworks.com <mailto:ebergenholtz at hortonworks.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jon Maron <jmaron at hortonworks.com
> >>     <mailto:jmaron at hortonworks.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>>     Openstack Big Data Platform
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott
> >>>     <david.scott at cloudscaling.com
> >>>     <mailto:david.scott at cloudscaling.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>     I vote for 'Open Stack Data'
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>     On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo
> >>>>     <zhongyue.nah at intel.com <mailto:zhongyue.nah at intel.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>         Why not "OpenStack MapReduce"? I think that pretty much 
says
> >>>>         it all?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>         On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell
> >>>>         <glen at glenc.io <mailto:glen at glenc.io>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>             "performant" isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means
> >>>>             "having performance." I think you mean 
"high-performance."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>             On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee
> >>>>             <matt at redhat.com <mailto:matt at redhat.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>                 Rough cut -
> >>>>
> >>>>                 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
> >>>>                 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an
> >>>>                 open, cutting edge, performant and scalable data
> >>>>                 processing stack and associated management 
interfaces.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>     Proposing a slightly different mission:
> >>
> >>     To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which 
to
> >>     deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including 
management,
> >>     monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of
> >>     OpenStack.____
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> +1. I liked the data processing aspect as well, since EDP api 
directly
> >> relates to that, maybe a combination of both.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>                 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>                     It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to
> >>>>                     define Mission Statement
> >>>>                     first.
> >>>>
> >>>>                     Sincerely yours,
> >>>>                     Sergey Lukjanov
> >>>>                     Savanna Technical Lead
> >>>>                     Mirantis Inc.
> >>>>
> >>>>                     On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov
> >>>>                     <akuznetsov at mirantis.com
> >>>>                     <mailto:akuznetsov at mirantis.com>
> >>>>                     <mailto:akuznetsov at mirantis.__com
> >>>>                     <mailto:akuznetsov at mirantis.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>                         My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey 
Lukjanov
> >>>>                         <slukjanov at mirantis.com
> >>>>                         <mailto:slukjanov at mirantis.com>
> >>>>                         <mailto:slukjanov at mirantis.com
> >>>>                         <mailto:slukjanov at mirantis.com>__>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>                             Hi folks,
> >>>>
> >>>>                             due to the Incubator Application we
> >>>>                         should prepare Program name
> >>>>                             and Mission statement for Savanna, so, 
I
> >>>>                         want to start mailing
> >>>>                             thread about it.
> >>>>
> >>>>                             Please, provide any ideas here.
> >>>>
> >>>>                             P.S. List of existing programs:
> >>>>                         https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Programs
> >>>>                         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs>
> >>>>                             P.P.S.
> >>>>                         https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/
> Governance/NewPrograms
> >>>>                         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/
> Governance/NewPrograms>
> >>>>
> >>>>                             Sincerely yours,
> >>>>                             Sergey Lukjanov
> >>>>                             Savanna Technical Lead
> >>>>                             Mirantis Inc.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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