<font size=2 face="sans-serif">"data processing" is surely a
superset of "big data".  Either, by itself, is way too vague.
 But the wording that many people favor, which I will quote again,
uses the vague term in a qualified way that makes it appropriately specific,
IMHO.  Here is the wording again:</font>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>``To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism
by which to deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management,
monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of OpenStack.''</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>I think that saying "related Big Data projects"
after "Hadoop" is fairly clear.  OTOH, I would not mind
replacing "Hadoop and related Big Data projects" with "the
Hadoop ecosystem".</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Regards,</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>Mike</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Matthew Farrellee <matt@redhat.com> wrote on
09/16/2013 02:39:20 PM:<br>
<br>
> From: Matthew Farrellee <matt@redhat.com></font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>,
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Date: 09/16/2013 02:40 PM</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program
name and Mission statement</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> <br>
> IMHO, Big Data is even more nebulous and currently being pulled in
many <br>
> directions. Hadoop-as-a-Service may be too narrow. So, something in
<br>
> between, such as Data Processing, is a good balance.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> matt<br>
> <br>
> On 09/13/2013 08:37 AM, Abhishek Lahiri wrote:<br>
> > IMHO data processing is too board , it makes more sense to clarify
this<br>
> > program as big data as a service or simply openstack-Hadoop-as-a-service.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks & Regards<br>
> > Abhishek Lahiri<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Nirmal Ranganathan <rnirmal@gmail.com<br>
> > <</font></tt><a href=mailto:rnirmal@gmail.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:rnirmal@gmail.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>>
wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Erik Bergenholtz<br>
> >> <ebergenholtz@hortonworks.com <</font></tt><a href=mailto:ebergenholtz@hortonworks.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:ebergenholtz@hortonworks.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>     On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jon Maron <jmaron@hortonworks.com<br>
> >>     <</font></tt><a href=mailto:jmaron@hortonworks.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:jmaron@hortonworks.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>>
wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>>     Openstack Big Data Platform<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>     On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott<br>
> >>>     <david.scott@cloudscaling.com<br>
> >>>     <</font></tt><a href=mailto:david.scott@cloudscaling.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:david.scott@cloudscaling.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>>
wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>>     I vote for 'Open Stack Data'<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>     On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue
Luo<br>
> >>>>     <zhongyue.nah@intel.com <</font></tt><a href=mailto:zhongyue.nah@intel.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:zhongyue.nah@intel.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>>
wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>         Why not "OpenStack
MapReduce"? I think that pretty much says<br>
> >>>>         it all?<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>         On Wed, Sep 11, 2013
at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell<br>
> >>>>         <glen@glenc.io <</font></tt><a href=mailto:glen@glenc.io><tt><font size=2>mailto:glen@glenc.io</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>>
wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>             "performant"
isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means<br>
> >>>>             "having
performance." I think you mean "high-performance."<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>             On Tue,
Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee<br>
> >>>>             <matt@redhat.com
<</font></tt><a href=mailto:matt@redhat.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:matt@redhat.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>>
wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
  Rough cut -<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
  Program: OpenStack Data Processing<br>
> >>>>              
  Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an<br>
> >>>>              
  open, cutting edge, performant and scalable data<br>
> >>>>              
  processing stack and associated management interfaces.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >><br>
> >>     Proposing a slightly different mission:<br>
> >><br>
> >>     To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable
mechanism by which to<br>
> >>     deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects,
including management,<br>
> >>     monitoring and processing mechanisms driving
further adoption of<br>
> >>     OpenStack.____<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> +1. I liked the data processing aspect as well, since EDP
api directly<br>
> >> relates to that, maybe a combination of both.<br>
> >><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
  On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
      It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to<br>
> >>>>              
      define Mission Statement<br>
> >>>>              
      first.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
      Sincerely yours,<br>
> >>>>              
      Sergey Lukjanov<br>
> >>>>              
      Savanna Technical Lead<br>
> >>>>              
      Mirantis Inc.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
      On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov<br>
> >>>>              
      <akuznetsov@mirantis.com<br>
> >>>>              
      <</font></tt><a href=mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>              
      <</font></tt><a href=mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.__com><tt><font size=2>mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.__com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> >>>>              
      <</font></tt><a href=mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>>>
wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
          My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
          On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey
Lukjanov<br>
> >>>>              
          <slukjanov@mirantis.com<br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href=mailto:slukjanov@mirantis.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:slukjanov@mirantis.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href=mailto:slukjanov@mirantis.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:slukjanov@mirantis.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href=mailto:slukjanov@mirantis.com><tt><font size=2>mailto:slukjanov@mirantis.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>__>>
wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
              Hi folks,<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
              due to the Incubator Application
we<br>
> >>>>              
          should prepare Program name<br>
> >>>>              
              and Mission statement
for Savanna, so, I<br>
> >>>>              
          want to start mailing<br>
> >>>>              
              thread about it.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
              Please, provide any ideas
here.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
              P.S. List of existing
programs:<br>
> >>>>              
          </font></tt><a href=https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Programs><tt><font size=2>https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Programs</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href=https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs><tt><font size=2>https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>              
              P.P.S.<br>
> >>>>              
          </font></tt><a href=https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/><tt><font size=2>https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> Governance/NewPrograms<br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href=https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/><tt><font size=2>https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> Governance/NewPrograms><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
              Sincerely yours,<br>
> >>>>              
              Sergey Lukjanov<br>
> >>>>              
              Savanna Technical Lead<br>
> >>>>              
              Mirantis Inc.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
          _________________________________________________<br>
> >>>>              
              OpenStack-dev mailing
list<br>
> >>>>              
          OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.__org<br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.__openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.__openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
          </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> mailman/listinfo/__openstack-dev<br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
          _________________________________________________<br>
> >>>>              
          OpenStack-dev mailing list<br>
> >>>>              
          OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.__org<br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.__openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.__openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>><br>
> >>>>              
          </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> mailman/listinfo/__openstack-dev<br>
> >>>>              
          <</font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
      _________________________________________________<br>
> >>>>              
      OpenStack-dev mailing list<br>
> >>>>              
      OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.__org<br>
> >>>>              
      <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>              
      </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> mailman/listinfo/__openstack-dev<br>
> >>>>              
      <</font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>              
  _________________________________________________<br>
> >>>>              
  OpenStack-dev mailing list<br>
> >>>>              
  OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.__org<br>
> >>>>              
  <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>              
  </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/mailman/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/__cgi-bin/mailman/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> listinfo/__openstack-dev<br>
> >>>>              
  <</font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> listinfo/openstack-dev><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>             --<br>
> >>>>             *Glen Campbell*<br>
> >>>>             </font></tt><a href=http://glenc.io/><tt><font size=2>http://glenc.io</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>
<</font></tt><a href=http://glenc.io/><tt><font size=2>http://glenc.io/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>>
• @glenc<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>             _______________________________________________<br>
> >>>>             OpenStack-dev
mailing list<br>
> >>>>             OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org<br>
> >>>>             <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>             </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> listinfo/openstack-dev<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>         --<br>
> >>>>         *Intel SSG/STOD/DCST/CIT*<br>
> >>>>         880 Zixing Road, Zizhu
Science Park, Minhang District,<br>
> >>>>         200241, Shanghai, China<br>
> >>>>         +862161166500 <tel:%2B862161166500><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>         _______________________________________________<br>
> >>>>         OpenStack-dev mailing
list<br>
> >>>>         OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org<br>
> >>>>         <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>         </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>     _______________________________________________<br>
> >>>>     OpenStack-dev mailing list<br>
> >>>>     OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org<br>
> >>>>     <</font></tt><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><tt><font size=2>mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>><br>
> >>>>     </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev"><tt><font size=2>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> >>><br>
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> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Nirmal<br>
> >> ----------------------------<br>
> >> </font></tt><a href=http://rnirmal.com/><tt><font size=2>http://rnirmal.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
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