[openstack-dev] Bad review patterns

Joe Gordon joe.gordon0 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 11 19:27:29 UTC 2013


On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Sean Dague <sean at dague.net> wrote:

> Not that I know of. I've considered writing my own gerrit front end
> mail service to do just that, because I agree, the current mail volume
> and granularity is not very good. If I manage to carve time on it,
> I'll do it on stackforge. Joe Gordon took a different approach and
> wrote a front end client to mark review threads read that are past.
>

https://github.com/jogo/gerrit-gmail


>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:40 PM, David Ripton <dripton at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 11/07/2013 07:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/08/2013 01:37 AM, Pedro Roque Marques wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Radomir,
> >>> An extra issue that i don't believe you've covered so far is about
> >>> comment ownership. I've just read an email on the list that follows a
> >>> pattern that i've heard many complaints about:
> >>>         -1 with a reasonable comment, submitter addresses the comment,
> >>> reviewer never comes back.
> >>>
> >>> Reviewers do need to allocate time to come back and follow up on the
> >>> answers to their comments.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps there is an issue with the incentive system. You can earn karma
> >>> by doing a code review... certainly you want to incentivise developers
> that
> >>> help the project by improving the code quality. But if the incentive
> system
> >>> allows for "drive by shooting" code reviews that can be a problem.
> >>
> >>
> >> It's not really an incentive system problem, this is some place where
> >> there are some gerrit limitations (especially when your list of reviewed
> >> code is long). Hopefully once we get a gerrit upgrade we can dashboard
> >> out some new items like that via the new rest API.
> >>
> >> I agree that reviewers could be doing better. But definitely also
> >> realize that part of this is just that there is *so* much code to
> review.
> >>
> >> Realize that most core reviewers aren't ignoring or failing to come back
> >> on patches intentionally. There is just *so* much of it. I feel guilty
> >> all the time by how big a review queue I have, but I also need a few
> >> hours a day not doing OpenStack (incredible to believe). This is where
> >> non core reviewers can really help in addressing the first couple of
> >> rounds of review to prune and improve the easy stuff.
> >>
> >> We're all in this together,
> >
> >
> > Is there a way for Gerrit to only send email when action is required,
> rather
> > than on any change to any review you've touched?  If Gerrit sent less
> mail,
> > it would be easier to treat its mails as a critical call to action to
> > re-review.  (There's probably a way to use fancy message filtering to
> > accomplish this, but that would only work for people willing/able to set
> up
> > such filtering.)
> >
> > --
> > David Ripton   Red Hat   dripton at redhat.com
> >
> >
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