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IMHO, we can make the messages translatable so that the user or the operator
can decide which locale to use.

As far as I know some countries prohibit products that are not translatable.


On 11/30/2012 09:09 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
> Seems like part of it is error lookup and that most people (I believe)
> that are looking at log files know some english? And when using
> google/yahoo/bing its easier to find related problems that others have had
> if there isn't variations of the error/log message that can't be found by
> search engines (there translation/cross language features are still subpar
> and will likely be for years to come).
>
> I'm not quite sure what is the argument for making them translatable,
> besides someone just thought it should be done and there was backing
> evidence that it is useful and worth the effort (is there this?). It is
> pretty unique to me in that I don't know many other projects that do this
> (things that show up to the user are usually where this type of
> translation occurs, log messages don't seem to be in this category).
>
> Fine that a PTL or other says it should be, but not so fine imho if that
> isn't given a good reason besides 'cause'. Maybe no need for a vote, but
> at least described reason so others can just say 'oh ya, that¹s why we
> made that decision and are sticking with it'.
>
> :-)
>
> On 11/29/12 2:19 PM, "Jay Pipes" <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/29/2012 03:21 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
>>> They all are?
>> I think what Sean was saying is that the log messages are all *marked
>> for translation*, not that they are all translated.
>>
>>> Wouldn't a agreement be better to have, instead of grandfathering the
>>> past
>>> in (and the weight it entails). Just cause something was initially done
>>> one way doesn't mean its the right way or the best way to go forward.
>> What is the argument for *not* making the log messages translatable?
>>
>> And as for the whole "let's use the election process for voting on
>> coding decisions", I say "please no." There is a PTL for a reason, and
>> policies like this are discussed on the mailing lists (sometimes to
>> death) and then a decision is made. Having votes on everything like this
>> seems to me to be a bad idea.
>>
>> I'd like to hear from some of the folks, particularly in APAC countries,
>> for which message translation is quite important.
>>
>> Best,
>> -jay
>>
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