Hello everyone, I hope you are all doing well! I sent an email a while ago to reestablish the Upstream Oslo IRC meetings. With the removal of Eventlet, this makes even more sense. I have received two positive responses, and we also mentioned it during the PTG last week. I propose to hold these meetings every other Monday, starting today, at 4:00 PM UTC. Does this work for everyone? Thank you for your feedback! -- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
LGTM, thanks Daniel. Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 13:25, Daniel Bengtsson <dbengt@redhat.com> a écrit :
Hello everyone,
I hope you are all doing well!
I sent an email a while ago to reestablish the Upstream Oslo IRC meetings. With the removal of Eventlet, this makes even more sense. I have received two positive responses, and we also mentioned it during the PTG last week.
I propose to hold these meetings every other Monday, starting today, at 4:00 PM UTC. Does this work for everyone?
Thank you for your feedback!
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/
I assume the proposed time slot may work for the interested party so I'd not argue this strongly, but 16:00 UTC is 1:00 am in my tz. As I already have another too-late-meeting in a different day of week I may not guarantee my consistent attendance. On 10/28/24 10:17 PM, Herve Beraud wrote:
LGTM, thanks Daniel.
Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 13:25, Daniel Bengtsson <dbengt@redhat.com <mailto:dbengt@redhat.com>> a écrit :
Hello everyone,
I hope you are all doing well!
I sent an email a while ago to reestablish the Upstream Oslo IRC meetings. With the removal of Eventlet, this makes even more sense. I have received two positive responses, and we also mentioned it during the PTG last week.
I propose to hold these meetings every other Monday, starting today, at 4:00 PM UTC. Does this work for everyone?
Thank you for your feedback!
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/ <https://github.com/4383/>
Thinking twice about your proposal... Concerning myself, the official meeting slots https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting which do not match anymore with my personal calendar. Still concerning myself, if we decide to go with 4pm UTC I won't be able to assist the whole meeting. Maybe choosing another day would best fit everyone? If we decide to change the hour, then, the meeting page should be updated ( https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting). Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 14:24, Takashi Kajinami <kajinamit@oss.nttdata.com> a écrit :
I assume the proposed time slot may work for the interested party so I'd not argue this strongly, but 16:00 UTC is 1:00 am in my tz. As I already have another too-late-meeting in a different day of week I may not guarantee my consistent attendance.
On 10/28/24 10:17 PM, Herve Beraud wrote:
LGTM, thanks Daniel.
Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 13:25, Daniel Bengtsson <dbengt@redhat.com <mailto:dbengt@redhat.com>> a écrit :
Hello everyone,
I hope you are all doing well!
I sent an email a while ago to reestablish the Upstream Oslo IRC meetings. With the removal of Eventlet, this makes even more sense. I have received two positive responses, and we also mentioned it during the PTG last week.
I propose to hold these meetings every other Monday, starting today, at 4:00 PM UTC. Does this work for everyone?
Thank you for your feedback!
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/ <https://github.com/4383/>
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/
On 2024-10-28 15:55, Herve Beraud wrote:
Thinking twice about your proposal... Concerning myself, the official meeting slots https:// meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <https://meetings.opendev.org/ #Oslo_Team_Meeting> which do not match anymore with my personal calendar. Still concerning myself, if we decide to go with 4pm UTC I won't be able to assist the whole meeting. Maybe choosing another day would best fit everyone? What is the best time for you? We can do another time.
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
On 2024-10-28 15:55, Herve Beraud wrote:
If we decide to change the hour, then, the meeting page should be updated (https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <https:// meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting>). Yes I will updated but what is the best time and day for everyone?
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
I don't think we can answer that question here. I'd encourage you to propose time slots and day and then to run a doodle vote on them. Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 17:22, Daniel Bengtsson <dbengt@redhat.com> a écrit :
On 2024-10-28 15:55, Herve Beraud wrote:
If we decide to change the hour, then, the meeting page should be updated (https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <https:// meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting>). Yes I will updated but what is the best time and day for everyone?
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/
+1 for using doodle vote to decide the slot. Just dumping my preference here for your refernce but I'll reflect these in the vote once it is open. Regarding the time slot, assuming we have more people from US/EMEA TZ attending the meeting, I'm ok with having the meeting late, but I hope we can finish it before 16:00 UTC (25:00 JST). Regarding the day, here in Japan we have more local holidays on Monday than the other days of a week, so I hope we can avoid Monday as I mentioned in my reply to the previous thread. I more likely get my own things on Friday or Wednesday. So I personally prefer Tuesday and Thursday, and then Wednesday as a fallback. On 10/29/24 1:59 AM, Herve Beraud wrote:
I don't think we can answer that question here. I'd encourage you to propose time slots and day and then to run a doodle vote on them.
Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 17:22, Daniel Bengtsson <dbengt@redhat.com <mailto:dbengt@redhat.com>> a écrit :
On 2024-10-28 15:55, Herve Beraud wrote: > If we decide to change the hour, then, the meeting page should > be updated (https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting> <https:// > meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <http://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting>>). Yes I will updated but what is the best time and day for everyone?
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/ <https://github.com/4383/>
On Tue, 2024-10-29 at 15:43 +0900, Takashi Kajinami wrote:
+1 for using doodle vote to decide the slot.
Just dumping my preference here for your refernce but I'll reflect these in the vote once it is open.
Regarding the time slot, assuming we have more people from US/EMEA TZ attending the meeting, I'm ok with having the meeting late, but I hope we can finish it before 16:00 UTC (25:00 JST).
Regarding the day, here in Japan we have more local holidays on Monday than the other days of a week, so I hope we can avoid Monday as I mentioned in my reply to the previous thread. I more likely get my own things on Friday or Wednesday. So I personally prefer Tuesday and Thursday, and then Wednesday as a fallback.
Just thinking out loud: is it possible to alternate between (European) mornings and afternoons to catch both audiences? I don't think the Doodle captures this option. Stephen
On 10/29/24 1:59 AM, Herve Beraud wrote:
I don't think we can answer that question here. I'd encourage you to propose time slots and day and then to run a doodle vote on them.
Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 17:22, Daniel Bengtsson <dbengt@redhat.com <mailto:dbengt@redhat.com>> a écrit :
On 2024-10-28 15:55, Herve Beraud wrote: > If we decide to change the hour, then, the meeting page should > be updated (https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting> <https:// > meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <http://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting>>). Yes I will updated but what is the best time and day for everyone?
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/ <https://github.com/4383/>
Le mer. 30 oct. 2024 à 13:06, Stephen Finucane <stephenfin@redhat.com> a écrit :
+1 for using doodle vote to decide the slot.
Just dumping my preference here for your refernce but I'll reflect these in the vote once it is open.
Regarding the time slot, assuming we have more people from US/EMEA TZ attending the meeting, I'm ok with having the meeting late, but I hope we can finish it before 16:00 UTC (25:00 JST).
Regarding the day, here in Japan we have more local holidays on Monday than the other days of a week, so I hope we can avoid Monday as I mentioned in my reply to the previous thread. I more likely get my own things on Friday or Wednesday. So I personally prefer Tuesday and Thursday, and
On Tue, 2024-10-29 at 15:43 +0900, Takashi Kajinami wrote: then
Wednesday as a fallback.
Just thinking out loud: is it possible to alternate between (European) mornings and afternoons to catch both audiences? I don't think the Doodle captures this option.
This is a good idea, I was thinking of maybe doing the same for the IRC meetings related to eventlet-removal. It would leave a chance for everybody to attend. The eventlet meetings are a bit different because they are bimonthly meetings so we could easily shift the time slot between the first and the second meeting. But as Daniel pushed to run it each week, IMO, it would be more complexe to apply it to oslo meetings. I'm far from a doodle expert, but from what I observed, doodle want specific dates so... maybe the trick is to propose 2 time slots on fake dates that more represent days of the week (monday, tuesday, wed...) than real dates, and then to select the both opposite time slots that best cover our extended time zone needs.
Stephen
On 10/29/24 1:59 AM, Herve Beraud wrote:
I don't think we can answer that question here. I'd encourage you to
propose time slots and day and then to run a doodle vote on them.
Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 17:22, Daniel Bengtsson <dbengt@redhat.com
<mailto:dbengt@redhat.com>> a écrit :
On 2024-10-28 15:55, Herve Beraud wrote: > If we decide to change the hour, then, the meeting page should > be updated (https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <
https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting> <https://
> meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting <
http://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting>>).
Yes I will updated but what is the best time and day for everyone?
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/ <https://github.com/4383/>
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/
---- On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 08:06:11 -0700 Herve Beraud wrote ---
Le mer. 30 oct. 2024 à 13:06, Stephen Finucane stephenfin@redhat.com> a écrit : On Tue, 2024-10-29 at 15:43 +0900, Takashi Kajinami wrote:
+1 for using doodle vote to decide the slot.
Just dumping my preference here for your refernce but I'll reflect these in the vote once it is open.
Regarding the time slot, assuming we have more people from US/EMEA TZ attending the meeting, I'm ok with having the meeting late, but I hope we can finish it before 16:00 UTC (25:00 JST).
Regarding the day, here in Japan we have more local holidays on Monday than the other days of a week, so I hope we can avoid Monday as I mentioned in my reply to the previous thread. I more likely get my own things on Friday or Wednesday. So I personally prefer Tuesday and Thursday, and then Wednesday as a fallback.
Just thinking out loud: is it possible to alternate between (European) mornings and afternoons to catch both audiences? I don't think the Doodle captures this option.
This is a good idea, I was thinking of maybe doing the same for the IRC meetings related to eventlet-removal. It would leave a chance for everybody to attend.The eventlet meetings are a bit different because they are bimonthly meetings so we could easily shift the time slot between the first and the second meeting.But as Daniel pushed to run it each week, IMO, it would be more complexe to apply it to oslo meetings. I'm far from a doodle expert, but from what I observed, doodle want specific dates so... maybe the trick is to propose 2 time slots on fake dates that more represent days of the week (monday, tuesday, wed...) than real dates, and then to select the both opposite time slots that best cover our extended time zone needs.
++ on alternate TZ meetings, and that way, EU and Asia TZ can be covered in one of the meetings. To keep it simple, we can have separate doodle poll for each TZ meeting. -gmann
Stephen
On 10/29/24 1:59 AM, Herve Beraud wrote:
I don't think we can answer that question here. I'd encourage you to propose time slots and day and then to run a doodle vote on them.
Le lun. 28 oct. 2024 à 17:22, Daniel Bengtsson dbengt@redhat.com dbengt@redhat.com>> a écrit :
On 2024-10-28 15:55, Herve Beraud wrote: > If we decide to change the hour, then, the meeting page should > be updated (https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting https://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting> <https:// > meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting http://meetings.opendev.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting>>). Yes I will updated but what is the best time and day for everyone?
-- Daniel Bengtsson Software engineer
-- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/ https://github.com/4383/>
-- Hervé BeraudSenior Software Engineer at Red Hatirc: hberaudhttps://github.com/4383/
On 10/30/24 5:57 PM, Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote:
++ on alternate TZ meetings, and that way, EU and Asia TZ can be covered in one of the meetings. To keep it simple, we can have separate doodle poll for each TZ meeting. Ok so maybe instead we can have one meeting per week. As you proposed like one for the Europeean and Asia and one for the us? I have create a first UTC pool here[1] afternoon and here[2] you have the morning one.
[1] https://www.vyte.in/e/1cnp51e4sd [2] https://www.vyte.in/e/2j0to257cd
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Daniel Bengtsson
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Ghanshyam Mann
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Herve Beraud
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Stephen Finucane
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