Yup. I think it’s time to get out. We said we’d move if we’re running into a problem or changes happen. This is the case now. I’ve setup a small Google Meet for today to discuss things because quite honestly, I don’t think the IRC is viable for this discussion in terms of how urgent this needs to be done and the potential for interruption. The meeting is in 3 hours exactly. OpenStack network migration Wednesday, May 26 · 10:30–11 AM EST Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/xqw-zkhw-wak Or dial: +1 226-213-8281 PIN: 5116612309845 More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/xqw-zkhw-wak?pin=5116612309845 I would appreciate if our community joined so we can get an actionable plan as quickly as possible. Thanks for everyone’s comments and I hope that we’re going to have a lot of hands to help us, because there will be a non trivial amount of work and a few decisions to be made. I’ll add an etherpad for this discussion shortly. On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 7:20 AM Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:44 AM Cédric Jeanneret <cjeanner@redhat.com> wrote:
Hello all,
I think we shouldn't let this one die in silence. Apparently, new policies are being enforcing within Freenode and, if by mistake, a channel promotes another IRC network in their topic, they will be taken by freenode staff - meaning loss of rights, loss of ownership, and topic will be changed.
FYI #rdo fell victim to this and is now on Libera.
Dmitry
that's not what we can call "foss supporting" anymore imho. (Though, apparently, this was due to some miscommunication - so long for the transparency, stability and so on.)
Reading the «explanation» on both sides[1][2], as well as latest freenode communication[3], I'd rather go for the OFTC thing, since it's (really) independent of the whole thing.
True freenode is (was?) a central player for FOSS communities. But with all the screaming around, it might get harder to stick with them.
Though, right now, the current privacy policy[4] doesn't reflect any weird use of our data (that is, as of 2021-05-26, 08:30am CET). Maybe a false flag? We'll probably never really know, but checking that privacy policy and related contents evolution might provide a good hint.
Some of the other communities I'm following have implemented a bridge bot, basically copy-pasting content from one network to another. That way, ppl could be on OFTC (or anywhere else where we have a foot on), while primary thing would stick to freenode (and thus allowing a clean migration)?
My 2c ;).
Cheers,
C.
[1] https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss [2] https://libera.chat/news/welcome-to-libera-chat [3] https://freenode.net/news/for-foss [4] https://freenode.net/policies
On 5/14/21 5:05 PM, Chris Morgan wrote:
https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20 <https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20> https://p.haavard.me/407 <https://p.haavard.me/407>
I have no independent validation of this.
Chris
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