Yup. I think it’s time to get out. We said we’d move if we’re running into a problem or changes happen. This is the case now.
I’ve setup a small Google Meet for today to discuss things because quite honestly, I don’t think the IRC is viable for this discussion in terms of how urgent this needs to be done and the potential for interruption. The meeting is in 3 hours exactly.
OpenStack network migration
Wednesday, May 26 · 10:30–11 AM EST
Google Meet joining info
Or dial: +1 226-213-8281 PIN: 5116612309845
I would appreciate if our community joined so we can get an actionable plan as quickly as possible.
Thanks for everyone’s comments and I hope that we’re going to have a lot of hands to help us, because there will be a non trivial amount of work and a few decisions to be made.
I’ll add an etherpad for this discussion shortly.
Hello all,
I think we shouldn't let this one die in silence. Apparently, new
policies are being enforcing within Freenode and, if by mistake, a
channel promotes another IRC network in their topic, they will be taken
by freenode staff - meaning loss of rights, loss of ownership, and topic
will be changed.
FYI #rdo fell victim to this and is now on Libera.
Dmitry
that's not what we can call "foss supporting" anymore imho. (Though,
apparently, this was due to some miscommunication - so long for the
transparency, stability and so on.)
Reading the «explanation» on both sides[1][2], as well as latest
freenode communication[3], I'd rather go for the OFTC thing, since it's
(really) independent of the whole thing.
True freenode is (was?) a central player for FOSS communities. But with
all the screaming around, it might get harder to stick with them.
Though, right now, the current privacy policy[4] doesn't reflect any
weird use of our data (that is, as of 2021-05-26, 08:30am CET). Maybe a
false flag? We'll probably never really know, but checking that privacy
policy and related contents evolution might provide a good hint.
Some of the other communities I'm following have implemented a bridge
bot, basically copy-pasting content from one network to another. That
way, ppl could be on OFTC (or anywhere else where we have a foot on),
while primary thing would stick to freenode (and thus allowing a clean
migration)?
My 2c ;).
Cheers,
C.
[1] https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss
[2] https://libera.chat/news/welcome-to-libera-chat
[3] https://freenode.net/news/for-foss
[4] https://freenode.net/policies
On 5/14/21 5:05 PM, Chris Morgan wrote:
> https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20
> <https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20>
> https://p.haavard.me/407 <https://p.haavard.me/407>
>
> I have no independent validation of this.
>
> Chris
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