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[manila] Antelope PTG Summary
by Carlos Silva 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hello, Zorillas and interested stackers. Thank you for the productive PTG we had last week. Here goes the summary for the past week's discussions. In case you would like to see the expanded versions, please refer to [0] or check out the recordings in the Manila YouTube Channel [11]. Different approaches for the images we use in our jobs - Recent changes in the Manila CI (related to the service image) made the jobs take longer to run and become more resource intensive, causing jobs to fail more often due to lack of resources in dsvm - We have been looking for approaches to tackle this issue - In the short term, if a job keeps failing due to such issues, we will split it into two jobs - One to run scenario tests (these tests spawn VMs) - One to run API tests - We agreed that this can get worse in the future with dsvm images that could be even more resource demanding, and that we will look for containerized approaches to try and solve this issue Share backup - (kpdev) The proposed approach for share backup has changed - An existing specification [1] was restored - The idea is to have new APIs for share backup and a new generic Backup driver in a similar way to what Cinder does. - This would allow backends to have their specific implementations for share backups - Reviews for this specification are ongoing Secure RBAC changes - Goutham has shared with the community all the good progress we had in Manila, and also mentioned what we did in Zed, after all the operator's feedback. - Now, we are entering a phase where we want to test a lot! - We have a CI jobs and some test cases covered, but we still want to have more coverage - During Antelope, we will promote a hackathon in order to accelerate the functional tests coverage Outreachy Internships - On this topic, ashrodri, fmount, gouthamr and carloss shared the two proposed Outreachy project that are Manila related - ashrodri and fmount are proposing a project to have an intern creating a multi-node test environment with Devstack and Ceph [2], as these tests are becoming more resource demanding - carloss and gouthamr are proposing a project for an intern to work in Manila UI [3]. The idea is to close down the gap of features between Manila UI and the Manila API. OpenStackSDK Manila Status - This has been an effort for some time, and during the Zed cycle some code was merged for integrating share groups and share group snapshots. - This is a good candidate project for an internship, and the idea is that we will be able to get some interns working on this project (potentially a project for a college capstone project) OSC Updates - Zed was the release we targeted to reach feature parity with the native client, and we made it! - We had an idea to add a deprecation warning to the native manila client, but that will need to wait - There is still a missing bit for adding the deprecation warning: having version autonegotiation working, which is something we are targeting for Antelope - OSC is now the primary focus of the project when doing implementations for CLIs. Bandit Testing / VMT - The Manila team was introduced to the VMT (vulnerability management team) and Bandit, and we had contributors sharing their ideas around having manila under the VMT and running bandit tests. - VMT - The audience agreed with the conditions to be under the overseen repos. - Goutham has volunteered to be the security liaison for Manila - Bandit - There were some errors pointed out in a preliminar test run [4]. - We will add a bandit non-voting job and file bugs against third party drivers that have issues pointed out by the new job - New bugs will be filed and will be distributed across community members All Things CephFS - Ingress aware NFS Ganesha - Ceph Orchestrator is now capable of creating an ingress service to front-end a cluster of active-active NFS Ganesha instances via a single load-balanced IP address - Previously, we would only use one single instance of NFS Ganesha. This introduces a SPOF and is not suitable for production environments without HA being handled externally (like TripleO deployments do). With this change, Manila CephFS NFS users would be able to deploy multiple NFS Ganesha servers and leverage inbuilt HA capabilities - Currently though manila client restrictions (access rules) will not work since NFS-Ganesha sees the ingress service's IP instead of the client's IP address. - ffilz proposed his design to support the PROXY protocol with NFS-Ganesha. Ceph Ingress can pass the Client's IP address to NFS-Ganesha [5] - An alternative would be to have cephadm assign stable IP addresses to ganesha instances - No driver changes are anticipated in either approach - AI: Investigating deploying ceph-ingress with devstack - Migration tool for Manila with CephFS NFS - After the new helper was introduced to the driver, we are able to interact with cephadm-deployed CephNFS service (which comes with a lot of benefits) - Now, we need to figure out how to upgrade deployments with CephFS NFS using the current helper (which interacts with NFS Ganesha through DBUS) - There are two main issues: - Representing a change in exports when migrating across NFS Servers (current use case) or when decommissioning NFS Servers - Representing exports from multiple servers - a special case enabling migration where an old server will eventually be decommissioned: - These issues were talked through and possible solutions were proposed and will be worked on in the following cycles. More details on [6] - DHSS=True for CephFS driver - Currently, CephFS driver, whether you'd like to use it for Native CephFS, NFS via DBUS, NFS via ceph-mgr only supports DHSS=False. The request of this feature was raised during the OpenInfra Summit in Berlin from several Manila users. - We discussed some alternatives for making it happen: - 1) Operator determines Ceph cluster limits, and creates isolated file systems and declares multiple manila backends with each filesystem - 2) Subvolume groups - pinning a subvolume group to mds can isolate/dedicate mds load - CephFS CI issues - The lack of resources in the dsvms is affecting the CephFS Native and NFS jobs, causing them to be unstable. The jobs often run into timeouts - The situation could get worse as Jammy Jellyfish packages are not available yet - We will ask the ceph-users if jammy release bits can be made available Oversubscription enhancements - Storage pools supporting thin provisioning are open to oversubscription. This caused some problems mentioned in [7]. - We have an open specification which we intend to merge in the Antelope cycle, as well as the changes to address such issue FIPS - We have shared our testing status with regards to FIPS. We have jobs merged on stable branches up to wallaby for both manila and python-manilaclient repositories. - The next steps would be a more in-depth code audit to identify non-compliant libraries and making our jobs voting - We agreed to make our jobs voting when the Ubuntu images supporting FIPS are out - For drivers using non FIPS compliant libraries, we will notify the maintainers Metadata API update - Metadata APIs for share snapshots were added during the Zed cycle - The goal for this cycle is to have functional testing and the CLI merged. Both patches are under review and expected to be merged not late in the release. Manila CSI - The CSI plugin's been pretty stable in the last six months [8] - There was a good talk presented at KubeCon by Robert Vasek [9] - The next steps include getting a fix for an issue involving long snapshot names in the CephFS backend and supporting volume expansion in the OpenShift Manila CSI driver operator Manila Configuration of VLAN Network information - A issue was found where Contrail Neutron Plugin did not return the VLAN ID during port allocation [10] - To tackle this issue, we have agreed to add metadata to the share network APIs so the administrators would be able to add VLAN as metadata and drivers would be able to consume it. *Better use of bug statuses* - Our bugs were stuck in "New" instead of "Confirmed" or "Triaged" and this could be misleading. - We agreed to tag the bugs as confirmed or triaged depending on the outcome of our triaging and not leave bugs as "new" - We will ask the bug assignees to update their open bugs in case one of them has the new status, so we can have a better visibility [0] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-ptg-manila [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/330306 [2] https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-december-2022-internship-round/communit… [3] https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-december-2022-internship-round/communit… [4] https://gist.github.com/gouthampacha/c0d96966670956761b2b620be730efe2 [5] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1orjNjtEeeyRrgvbQuFU5BdsCnZG9gF3MymDCZl-… [6] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-ptg-manila-cephfs [7] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila_oversubscription_enhancements [8] https://github.com/kubernetes/cloud-provider-openstack/commits/master/pkg/c… [9] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfpP9pBTXfY&t=1145s [10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-manila/+bug/1987315 [11] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnpzT0InFrqBzbSP6lcYDStKpbEl3GNHK Thanks, carloss

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[Glance] Antelope PTG Summary
by Pranali Deore 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hello Everyone, We had our sixth virtual PTG between 18th OCt to 21st OCT 2022. Thanks to everyone who joined the virtual PTG sessions. Using bluejeans app we had all the discussion around different topics for glance, glance + cinder, glance + ceph, fips and secure RBAC. I have created etherpad[1] with notes from the session and also included the recordings of each session. Here is the short summary of the discussions. Tuesday, OCT 18th 2022 # Zed Retrospective On the positive note, we have merged a number of useful features this cycle. We managed to implement glance-download internal plugin to download the image from remote glance, Implemented support for immediate caching of an image, Extended the functionality of stores-detail API to expose store details of other stores and we have removed the scope scheck from scope_types for all project resources and done with phase 1 as per the revised community goal. In addition to that we have successfully organized the review party before each milestone to perform group review to cover the review load till the final milestone. On the other side we decided to organize a midcycle general cross project meetup/drivers meetup towards the end of the 2nd milestone to increase our presence in cross-projects. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/II_@CAqrZdd - Chapter 1 # Distributed responsibilities among cores/team This cycle also we have decided to follow the distributed leadership internally, we are going to distribute below responsibilities among the team, Release management:pranali Bug management: cyril Meetings: pranali Stable branch management: cyril and Erno Cross project communication: abhishekk Mailing lists: share responsibility, pranali PTG/summit preparation:pranali Vulnerability management: glance-coresec group Infra management: periodic-jobs - abhishekk migration of test jobs -abhishekk Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/II_@CAqrZdd - Chapter 2 # Default Glance to configure multiple stores Glance has deprecated single store configuration since Stein Cycle and this cycle we are going to start putting our efforts to deploy glance using multistore by default and then remove the single store support from glance. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/II_@CAqrZdd - Chapter 3 # Add missing CLI support for some Glance API in Openstack Client The CLI support for all glance APIS is already there in GlanceClient and the similar CLI support we need to have in OpenstackClient, in this Cycle we are going to put efforts to have OSC support for all the missing glance APIs. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/II_@CAqrZdd - Chapter 4 # Glance Cache improvements, restrict duplicate downloads This is abou how we can avoid multiple downloading of the same image in cache on first download Spec : https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/734683 We had this spec in the last cycle & decided to break the image into chunks and when the first request gets to the backend store it will start caching that image and if any other request comes in between and if caching is still in process it will read from the chunks created by the first request. But currently we have made one caching state to check if the image is still in caching but that was relying on md checksum to check if the image iterator has read the image completely or not but in new images we might not have checksum, multihash or size of the image, bcz if that is not present with the image we won't be able to change the state of image and thus we will never be able to resolve the issue of checking the image is in caching or not. Decided to dig more on the size verification & need to revisit this topic during mid-cycle meeting and update the spec with the solution for handling the multiple request and multiple chunks Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/II_@CAqrZdd - Chapter 5 Wednesday OCT 19th , 2022 # Image uploads to the filesystem driver are not fully atomic No efficient way to reproduce this issue, so it's decided to mark it as 'Won't fix' Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/j_UgZFw_jEV - Chapter 1 # DB migration constant change handling Till now we have all the migration scripts by the name of the cycle and since currently release has been change to 2023.1 which is going to break the migration test because when our DB sync tool runs it will check the initial version liberty and it finds the migration script from the liberty and traverse through all the directories till the current release and executes all the scripts available in that path. Decided to fix this by updating the data migration current release to '2023.1' and check with actual migration script to check whether there is any regression or not and check if it executes the scripts in serial manner. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/j_UgZFw_jEV - Chapter 2 # Configurable Soft Delete Stephen initiated this topic for nova and oslo.db but also sent out a mail for glance, cinder and for other projects, if we would be interested in the idea https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-October/030729… But Glance replies a lot on soft delete and doesn't allow hard delete as glance allows the user to specify the UUID of the image , so it's part of a security promise of an immutable images that you are not able to delete an image and then recreate image with same UUID right after, hence soft delete model can't be removed from Glance. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/j_UgZFw_jEV - Chapter 3 # Secure RBAC As per the revised community goal, till zed cycle we must have the project prosona implementation & drop the system scope which we have already done in glance. We have implemented project scope for image apis in wallaby & in Xena we have managed to move all policy checks to API layer and implemented project scope of metadef APIs. During zed cycle, we had discussed that like which apis should be exposed to system scope but after the operators feedback & as per the revised community goal it was decided to drop the system scope, we just had to remove the scope scheck from scope_types for all project resources, so we are done with Phase 1. In Antelope Cycle glance is going to switch the new defaults flag ON, once it is verified by tempest for all the services. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/j_UgZFw_jEV - Chapter 4 # Image Export with Metadata This is about exporting images with associated metadata for importing into another Glance deployment. This cycle we need some volunteers to work on this, the glance team will help in terms of reviews/finalizing the design etc otherwise we will revisit this in the next cycle. This session was not recorded as it was a small discussion # Fips Overview Path forward: - Investigate on the time outing of the existing glance fips job - Try to do the centos9 jobs stable till wallaby, so could possibly move to voting - Have ubuntu jobs working & running and make them stable Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/j_UgZFw_jEV - Chapter 5 Thursday, OCT 20th, 2022 # Option needed to create image in erasure coded ceph pool To use the erasure coded ceph pool feature where the data will be held needs to be specified during image creation, a config option is needed. Decided to write a spec first describing this in detail and modify the existing devstack job for ceph. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/cNEJ@Yq_hv5 - Chapter 1 # Parallelization of RADOS image writes when creating an image This is for parallelization of image writes into ceph, by increasing the amount of data written at once. Decided to not have this without testing to measure if there's an actual gain. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/cNEJ@Yq_hv5 - Chapter 2 # Add chunk download support for rbd backend Rbd supports random reading, and the rbd driver is designed to support partial download. But the current version disables this feature, and doesn't implement the chunk support. There is potential future use for it, but there's nothing that users would gain from this. If not usable through the API then we will drop this. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/cNEJ@Yq_hv5 - chapter 3 # Operators hour No operator joined the session # Speedup upload images for Swift backend Upload images using Swift backend is slow due to the synchronous way of uploading fragments and which causes loading that can take several hours, especially in cases with very large images. Decided to update the spec with two implementations one as traditional & one for multithreaded one, by having a new configuration option ``swift_store_thread_pool_size`` to the Swift store backend. Recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/cNEJ@Yq_hv5 - Chapter 4 Friday, OCT 21st, 2022 # Cross project meet with Cinder # Glance Image Direct URL access Issue Glance has OSSN-0090[2] describing the security risk when you are operating glance with 'show_multiple_locations' or if the end user facing glance-api has 'show_image_direct_url' options set to true. When glance shares a common storage backend with nova & cinder, it is possible to open some known attack vendors by which malicious data modification can occur. Decided to fix this by going with the solution proposed by Rajat during last cycle, to remove the show_multiple_locations config option and to have below 2 new location APIs[3] which will replace the image-update mechanism for consumers like cinder and nova in glance, 1. Location ADD API: Design this api in way that the location will be added only once during image create when the image is in QUEUED state and no-one should be allowed to add location after the image is active This wouldn't require the 'service role' and a basic check on the glance side to check image status should suffice. 2. Location GET API: This will show all the locations associated with an existing image. Returns an empty list if an image contains no locations. This would still require the 'service role' since we don't want to expose locations to end users. Glance has dependency on keystone for 'service role' which is going to be implemented in this cycle as per phase 2 target mentioned in SRBAC community goals[4]. Recording : https://bluejeans.com/s/B4Rlifuwx_l - Chapter 1 You will find the detailed information about the same in the PTG etherpad[1] along with the recordings of the sessions and milestone wise priorities at the bottom of the etherpad. Kindly let me know if you have any questions about the same. [1]: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-glance-ptg [2]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OSSN/OSSN-0090 [3]: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/zed/approved/glanc… [4]: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/selected/consistent-and-secure-rb… Thanks, Pranali

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[cinder] Cancelling this weeks meeting 26 Oct
by Rajat Dhasmana 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hello Argonauts, Since we just had PTG last week, it seems reasonable to skip this week's meeting. Also I will be on leave tomorrow so cancelling this week's cinder meeting (26 October, 2022). - Rajat Dhasmana

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[kolla] [train] Endpoints fail when one controller is down
by Albert Braden 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Some of our clusters are heavily used, and in those clusters we get complaints when we reboot a controller (or sometimes when we deploy and containers restart). Is that normal, or does it mean that we have something configured wrong? The symptoms are intermittent 504 from endpoints, and VM creation/deletion failing or partially completing, for example the VM is created but without DNS records. We are not following the "Removing existing controllers" procedure [1] before rebooting the controller; is that necessary to avoid these issues? 1. https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/user/adding-and-removing-ho…

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[kolla-ansible][xena][Masakari] masakarimonitors-instancemonitor won't start
by wodel youchi 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hi, I have this in my computes nodes; masakarimonitors-instancemonitor won't start 2022-10-25 14:37:27.354 7 INFO masakarimonitors.service [-] Starting masakarimonitors-instancemonitor 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 WARNING masakarimonitors.instancemonitor.instance [-] Error from libvirt : authentication failed: Failed to start SASL negotiation: -4 (SASL(-4): no mechanism available: No worthy mechs found) *2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service [-] Error starting thread.: libvirt.libvirtError: authentication failed: Failed to start SASL negotiation: -4 (SASL(-4): no mechanism available: No worthy mechs found) 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service Traceback (most recent call last): 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/oslo_service/service.py"* , line 806, in run_service 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service service.start() 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/masakarimonitors/service .py", line 62, in start 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service self.manager.main() 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/masakarimonitors/instanc emonitor/instance.py", line 166, in main 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service self._virt_event(uri) 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/masakarimonitors/instanc emonitor/instance.py", line 128, in _virt_event 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service vc = libvirt.openReadOnly(uri) 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/libvirt.py", line 350, in openReadOnl y 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service raise libvirtError('virConnectOpenReadOnly() failed') 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service libvirt.libvirtError: authentication failed: Failed to start SASL negotiation: - 4 (SASL(-4): no mechanism available: No worthy mechs found) 2022-10-25 14:37:27.357 7 ERROR oslo_service.service 2022-10-25 14:37:27.359 7 INFO masakarimonitors.service [-] Stopping masakarimonitors-instancemonitor I have verified the auth.conf file on both containers the password is the same. In the other hand, in /var/log/kolla/libvirt/libvirtd.log I have this : 2022-10-25 13:29:16.911+0000: 1391031: error : virNetSocketReadWire:1792 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error 2022-10-25 13:30:18.226+0000: 1391031: error : virNetSocketReadWire:1792 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error 2022-10-25 13:31:19.516+0000: 1391031: error : virNetSocketReadWire:1792 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error 2022-10-25 13:32:20.817+0000: 1391031: error : virNetSocketReadWire:1792 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error 2022-10-25 13:33:22.066+0000: 1391031: error : virNetSocketReadWire:1792 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error 2022-10-25 13:34:23.359+0000: 1391031: error : virNetSocketReadWire:1792 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error 2022-10-25 13:35:24.740+0000: 1391031: error : virNetSocketReadWire:1792 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error Any ideas? Regards.

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[kolla-ansible][Yoga] How to configure rabbitmq heartbeat values
by wodel youchi 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hi, I need to tweak these variables in my Rabbitmq : heartbeat_timeout_threshold heartbeat_rate heartbeat_interval When I tried to add heartbeat_timeout_threshold = 600 to rabbitmq.conf and reconfigure, the service failed to start with : 13:39:41.756 [error] You've tried to set heartbeat_timeout_threshold, but there is no setting with that name. 13:39:41.758 [error] Did you mean one of these? 13:39:41.838 [error] socket_writer.gc_threshold 13:39:41.838 [error] handshake_timeout 13:39:41.838 [error] auth_http.http_method 13:39:41.838 [error] You've tried to set heartbeat_rate, but there is no setting with that name. 13:39:41.838 [error] Did you mean one of these? 13:39:41.888 [error] heartbeat 13:39:41.889 [error] cluster_name 13:39:41.889 [error] channel_max 13:39:41.889 [error] Error preparing configuration in phase transform_datatypes: 13:39:41.889 [error] - Conf file attempted to set unknown variable: heartbeat_rate 13:39:41.889 [error] - Conf file attempted to set unknown variable: heartbeat_timeout_threshold How can I modify those variables? Regards.

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[TripleO] 2023.1 Antelope PTG summary
by Rabi Mishra 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hi All, Hope y'all had a great PTG last week and a great weekend. I would like to thank everyone who participated/contributed to Tripleo PTG sessions and helped all of us "share and learn". Though personally I don't like long emails, this summary is going to be a bit longer, please bear with me. We had a total of ten sessions spread over two days with very good participation (most sessions with 35+ [max 44] in attendance) and we shared/ discussed a multitude of topics. # Welcome and Zed Retrospective The highlights of the Zed cycle was collaboration across teams to add some new features and fine-tune features implemented in previous cycles that includes; Standalone roles, nftables switch, OVN RAFT support, ephemeral heat for upgrade use cases, CI jobs for Deployed Ceph and Ceph Container Promotion in CI etc. There was a discussion on the suggestion to stop backporting feature removals from stable branches as we did for wallaby in the last few cycles. Though TripleO does not follow stable policy, backporting feature removals with dependent patches across repos more often than not leads to broken CI and user support cases. We would be well placed if we can identify and do those before zed release and avoid the firefighting later. [Action Items] - Update zed review priorities etherpad[1] with deprecation/removal patches [All] # Standalone Ansible Roles Status Update James provided an update on the current status of "Standalone Ansible Roles' POC and we discussed the possible future scope of it beyond the current "scale-out compute" use case. He also demoed molecule based automation of deploying/testing a compute node with the new meta-role. Chandan shared the current work on CI jobs/scenarios to deploy computes with standalone roles. [Action Items] - Prioritize review/merge of proposed patches[2] on this topic [tripleo-core] - Finish the CI jobs for testing standalone roles and make them voting [Chandan/tripleo-ci-core] # Standalone Ansible Roles and External Ceph John presented his work to integrate computes deployed with standalone roles with external ceph. We don't plan to extend this effort to include tripleo deploying ceph using standalone roles, unless there is a requirement for that in the future. [Action Items] - Prioritize review of ceph related standalone role patches.[tripleo-core] # Multi-rhel support for Compute Brendan gave an update on the ongoing effort for multi-rhel support, different options evaluated and current POC status with composable roles approach. There is still some work left on automating role split during upgrade, which is expected to be completed this cycle. [Action Items] - Finish composable roles POC and test upgrade procedure manually [upgrades team] - Add CI jobs to test the proposed procedure upstream as feasible [upgrades team] - Implement role-split automation during upgrade [Takashi/Rabi] # OpenStack SDK, Ansible Collections OpenStack and TripleO We discussed the issues around openstacksdk backward incompatibility and the current pinning for it in RDO/TripleO. We agreed on an action plan to pre-release ansible-openstack-collection (AOC) for RDO/TripleO (though it is still not fully compatible with latest openstacksdk) and remove the pin so that Zed RDO can be released with openstacksdk 0.101.0. [Action Items] - Bump openstacksdk to 0.101.0 for RDO master and zed [Jakob/Alfredo] - Update RDO ansible-collections-openstack to the 2.0.0 pre-release [Jakob/Alfredo] # TripleO and Distributed Project Leadership (DPL) In this session, we discussed the possibility of opting for DPL in TripleO and sharing the responsibilities across multiple leaders in the team. There were a number of volunteers for different liaison roles and we in general agreed that it would be a good thing to do. We would propose the required change to governance sometime this cycle, unless there is any concern. [Action Items] - Finalize all required liaison roles and propose patch to openstack governance repo [Rabi] # Migration from puppetlabs/apache As part of the broader effort to reduce the puppet footprint, Cedric presented the ongoing effort to replace puppetlabs/apache with the new ansible role "tripleo_httpd_vhost"[3]. A few services have already been migrated and remaining ones are expected to be done this cycle with broader participation from sub teams. [Action Items] - Review/merge the already proposed patches for migration [tripleo-core] - Plan and work on migrating remaining services [Cedric] # State of CI CI team presented on a vast range of topics that included, - Added coverage of upgrade jobs across upstream check/gate, periodic component pipeline and periodic integration pipeline in zed (Marios) - Upstream jobs for multi-rhel testing (Marios) - Current state of OVB Jobs (Chandan) - TripleO CI Jobs on IBM Cloud and the new feature to hold nodes for troubleshooting (Chandan) - Tempest Allow List (Arx/Pooja/Soniya) - Tempest Dashboard (Arx/Lukas) # Container Capabilities We revisited the topic of privileged containers for services and how we can possibly avoid those by allowing the required limited container capabilities. As all these services are mostly for the compute role, we agreed that it would probably be better to align this effort with "Standalone Roles" for better testing. # OS Migrate Status Update Jirka provided an update on the tenant migration tool 'os-migrate', an ansible collection that is not a TripleO umbrella project, but used by the upgrades team. It's possible that I missed some important points from these discussions. Please feel free to add them by replying to this thread. All session etherpad links are in the main schedule etherpad[4] for reference. I'll share the session recordings once they're made available to us. Thanks Again. [1] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tripleo-zed-review-priorities [2] https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:standalone-roles [3] https://opendev.org/openstack/tripleo-ansible/src/branch/master/tripleo_ans… [4] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2022-ptg-tripleo -- Regards, Rabi Mishra

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[cloudkitty] Antelope PTG summary
by Rafael Weingärtner 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Dear all, The CloudKitty project had a great PTG meeting. Thanks to the OpenInfra Foundation for holding it. Also, thanks to all who have dedicated precious time to attend. We started the meeting by revisiting the latest release and discussing the review format we have adopted in the past two years. Looking at the result of our process, we decided to maintain it, as it seems to bring results and concentrate our efforts on getting CloudKitty better and evolving throughout time. While reviewing the past release, we discussed the situation with patch [1] (Allow rating rules that have 12 digits in the integer part of the number). This patch is a bug fix, and we discussed the idea of backporting it. However, as it is a patch that affects the database schema, it can be troublesome to backport it. Therefore, before doing any work, we will consult the mailing list to gather others opinions on this matter. Users could upgrade CloudKitty to address this issue, if they need to, instead of applying a patch. Pierre volunteered to execute this "inquiry" with the CloudKitty user base in the mailing list. While discussing the ElasticSearch (ES) improvements in CloudKitty to support ES 7, we raised the concern that Kolla-ansible is moving from ElasticSearch to OpenSearch. Therefore, we need to evaluate if this can have an impact in CloudKitty. Most certainly it will impact people using ES as the backend. The goal is to revisit this discussion in our next bi-weekly meeting, and then communicate for users and community (Topics for meeting of 31/10/2022 [2]). Furthermore, as the current CloudKitty team is a bit small, we have decided to focus on the following topics for the Antelope cycle. - Multiple rating types for the same metric -- One metric being used to generate different rates - Different time frame group by options -- provide group by options to group by day of the year, week of the year, month, and year. - Improve some timeouts handling when using Gnocchi backends. This one needs some checking with Zigo, who was the one that reported this situation. Zigo, I added you to this e-mail, can you reply back with more details regarding this situation? - A regression API that takes the resource ID Or project ID or scope ID, and executes a regression (prediction) based on the collected data so far for the given resources/elements/scope. - Add CloudKitty API reference docs ( https://docs.openstack.org/cloudkitty/latest/api-reference/index.html) to https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/ We also briefly discussed the situation with Monasca, which has already been deprecated from Kolla-ansible, and might be losing some traction and support. Therefore, we (as a community), might need to start thinking about deprecating it, and removing some non-tested code from our code base. We do understand that deprecating and removing support is complicated for users, but nobody is maintaining and testing that integration. Therefore, it tends to get broken and unstable over time. However, if somebody wants to volunteer to maintain and improve it, you are welcome :) In summary that is the outcome of our small, but efficient PTG meeting. Let's keep improving and making CloudKitty better. If I missed something, please do not hesitate to reply back. Also, if somebody needs any help, you can always ping me :) See you guys. Have a nice week! [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty/+/837200 [2] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cloudkitty-meeting-topics -- Rafael Weingärtner

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[neutron] Antelope PTG summary
by Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hello Neutrinos: This is a quick summary of what we have discussed during the PTG week. Zed summary and retrospective: - Here is the output of this session: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/neutron-antelope-ptg#L83 Spec handling: - To have a core reviewer assigned per spec. This reviewer will engage the community to review the spec and will be a kind of "godfather". - To have a weekly status report of the active specs in the community, to visibilize them, boost their impact and "coerce" the community to review them. Neutron CLI deprecation: - To remove the CLI code. - Python bindings: - Investigate and report the effort needed to make this migration in neutron client consumers (Nova, Horizon, Heat, etc). - Request other projects using the python bindings to move to OpenStack SDK. - Stop merging new features. Quota classes: - Information: https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/technical-guides/unified-limi… - Neutron RFE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1993288 - Still under development in the community, this is still not an accepted community goal, thus we won't start the development until some cons are discussed with the TC members (see the Neutron RFE description). Pyroute2 session: - IPmock, a new class to mock some pyroute2 objects: https://lab.pyroute2.org/ - Pluggable netlink engines. Still not compatible with NetNS (namespaces) - Transactional engine: - A daemon is always reading the netlink and inotify, and builds a DB with the system information. Data is read faster. This could be not compatible with the current sync calls using privsep. - Using NDB class. - Customize message parser, to reduce the amount of data retrieved from the kernel. - Dump/list operators will be generators (to check the compatibility with privsep). Remove the failed devstack migration and get back to what is called "neutron-legacy" (that was discussed before in a PTG but we didn't start the reversion). DNS subdomain support in ML2/OVN: - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/832658 - On hold until there is a use case. DNS resolver in ML2/OVN: - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2104568 - The main devoplment part falls in the OVN core team. Once finished, the Neutron part should be almost trivial. ML2/OVN flow metering. - Same as we currently have with ML2/OVS + iptables firewall (currently not supported with native firewall because we can't count OF flows). - Same as the previous feature, the main development is in the OVN core team. Neutron QA: - Implement a grenade job based on the SLURP cadence, testing from Y to A (done). - Have the "tempest-integrated-networking" job in our gate/check queues (patch under review). PCI Device Tracking In Placement (Nova-Neutron session): - The different approaches are still under development. - Spec to be proposed during this release (see etherpad to check the possible implementation options). Port binding switchdev capabilities (Nova-Neutron session): - We agreed that the current implementation is incorrect: Neutron should not modify the port binding dictionary. Nova is not reading it but overwriting it. - We won't change the current code but no new features will rely on it. Nova mutable MTU support (Nova-Neutron session): - For now, Neutron will document that a network MTU change requires a VM reboot (ot port detach/attach operations) to be applied on this port. S-RBAC: - Neutron has three implemented personas: system wide admin, project user and project reader. - Tempest will integrate all RBAC testing projects during this release. Once done, the new RBAC flag will be enabled by default. - Neutron will create the corresponding RBAC job/jobs. - Neutron needs to identify what is called "service role" calls (done from other projects). This is a new concept that will be included in next releases. nftables migration: - The current iptables legacy interface could be deprecated. During this release, Neutron will start an epic to move the current iptables API to the new nftables API; if possible, incrementally, mixing both APIs in the same agent. Please, if there is any missing topic, let me know. Regards and thank you for attending and participating.

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[Neutron] Bug Deputy Report Oct 17 - 24
by Oleg Bondarev 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hello Neutron Team, It was probably the most quiet week in the history of Bug Reports: Low ----- - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1993181 - [OVN] OVN metadata "MetadataProxyHandler" not working if workers=0 - Fix Released: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/861649 - Fixed by Rodolfo Alonso - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1993502 - failing unit tests when not running them all - Fix Released: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/861869 - Fixed Rodolfo Alonso - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1993498 - [CI] Create oslo master branch jobs (apart from py39)8 - In progress: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/861859 - assigned to Rodolfo Alonso RFEs: ----- - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1993288 - RFE: Adopt Keystone unified limits as quota driver for Neutron - New (PTG decision - wait till it become more mature) - Unassigned Thanks, Oleg

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[Cinder][Nova]Zombie process prevention for Cinder and Nova APIs
by yu-kishimoto＠kddi.com 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Hi all, I'm trying to fix issues of spawning zombie processes for Cinder and Nova APIs during instantiation in an IaC (Ansible which is not openstack-ansible). Does someone can kindly help me to solve the issue or give me some clues like parameter changes that can be expected to be effective? - Issues The cinder api service process(port: 8776) existed in a zombie state. The neutron api service process(port: 9696) required for nova existed in a zombie state. - What the IaC does Use an existing tenant to create a network and subnet, then use 8volumes to instantiate 8VMs. - Workarounds and what I've done so far Identify and kill zombie processes. - Environment OS: CentOS Stream 8 Kernel: 4.18.0-408.el8.x86_64 OpenStack: Yoga(Deployed by PackStack: https://www.rdoproject.org/install/packstack/) Nova: 25.0.1 Neutron: 20.2.0 Cinder: 20.0.1 KeyStone: 21.0.0 -- Yukihiro Kishimoto Technologist KDDI Co., Ltd. Tokyo Japan

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[magnum] Antelope PTG summary
by Jake Yip 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Dear all, Magnum had a great meeting during the latest PTG. Thanks to OpenInfra Foundation for holding it. Also, thanks to all who has found precious time to attend. As the current Magnum team is quite small, we have decided on the following: - Deprecate the Fedora Atomic driver - This is EOL. - Deprecate the CoreOS driver - This is similarly EOL. - Deprecate the Docker Swarm driver. Kubernetes has became the container orchestration engine of choice now. With our limited resources, it will be more efficient to support the most popular choice well, instead of multiple choices. - Mark branches before Victoria as unmaintained. These branches only support Kubernetes versions that has been EOL. - Most excitingly, move towards adding Cluster API support for Kubernetes. This allows the Magnum project to leverage off upstream effort in creating and managing a Kubernetes cluster. We understand that removing support is difficult for users, but we believe this is for the better. Our main aim is to keep the project moving fast enough to keep up with upstream Kubernetes. If anyone is willing to help maintain any of the items we plan on deprecating, please drop me a message. Regards, Magnum Team. -- Jake Yip DevOps Engineer, ARDC Nectar Research Cloud

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[nova][placement] 2023.1 Antelope PTG summary
by Sylvain Bauza 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

We're on a wetty Monday here and I guess this is time for me to take my pen again and write a PTG recap email for the current release, which is 2023.1 Antelope. Yet again, I *beg* you to *not* use any translation tool when reading any etherpad, including Google Chrome embedded translation or it would fully translate the whole etherpad content for *all* readers. In order to prevent any accidental misusage, here is a readonly copy of the Nova etherpad we had for the week https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/r.8ae4e0ef997aebfe626b2b272ff23f1b Again, I'm human and while I can write bugs (actually I write a lot of them), I can also write wrong things in this email and I can misinterpretate something precise. Apologies if so, and please don't refrain them yourself to correct me by replying to this email. Last but not the least, I'm more than open to any questions or remarks that would come from the reading of this long email. Good luck with this very long thread, you should maybe grab a coffee before starting to read it (and I promise to keep it as short as I can). ### Operator hours ### After the success of the productive Nova meet-and-greet session we held in Berlin (packed room w/ lots of feedback), we were eager to again have a discussion with operators, this time virtually which would have hopefully lowered the entry barrier by not requiring an in-person event in order to attend the session. Consequently, we allocated three timeslots of one hour, two back-to-back on Tuesday and one on Wednesday (on different times to arrange time differences between operators). Unfortunately, I have to write here that we only had a very small attendance on Tuesday with only three operators joining (but providing great feedback, thanks btw. !) and *none* on the 1-hour Wednesday slot. As a result, I won't provide statistics about release and project usage here as numbers are too low to be representative, but here is what we discussed : (again, a readonly etherpad is available here https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/r.aa8b12b385297b455138d35172698d48 for further context) # Upcoming features and general discussions - the possibility to mount Manila shares in Nova seems promising. - As nova doesn't support multiple physnets per neutron network today, this prevents the use of routed networks in some cases. - modifying our mod_wsgi usage to be allowed to pass some arguments is requested - operators seem interested in having PCI devices tracked in Placement # Pain points - getting inventories or used/availables resources in Placement becomes costly as it requires N calls, with N be the number of Resource Providers (instead of a single HTTP call). Problem has been acknowledged by the team and some design discussion occurred. - We should paginate on the flavors API and we need to fix the private > public flavor bug. - mediated devices disappearing at reboot is a problem. This has been discussed during the contributor session later, see below. - routing metrics are hard to manage when you have a long list of multiple ports attached. We eventually agreed on the fact the proposal fix could be an interesting feature for Neutron team to develop. That's it for the operators discussions. Let's now discuss about what we discussed in the contributors PTG agenda : ### Cross-project discussions Two projects this time were discussing with the Nova community : # Ironic-Nova The whole session was about the inconsistencies that were happening if a nova-compute was failing down with Ironic rebalancing the nodes. - we agreed on the fact this wasn't an easy problem to solve - a consensus was around the fact Ironic should support a sharding key so the Nova compute could use it instead of using hash rings. - JayF and johnthetubayguy agreed on codifying this idea into a spec - we'd hear feedback from operators about what they feel of the above migration (sharding their node cloud into sharding pieces and providing sharding details to nova) - in parallel of the above, documentation has to be amended in order to recommend for *existing deployments* to setup active/passive failover mode for Nova computes (instead of relying on hashring rebalances) # Neutron-Nova (I'll briefly cover the details here, as it will also be covered by the Neutron PTG recap) - while Nova is finishing up tracking of PCI devices in Placement this cycle, we agreed on defering the modeling of Neutron-based PCI requests until next cycle. This won't have any impact in terms of existing features that will continue to operate seamlessly. - the way we define switchdev capabilities as of now is incorrect. We agreed on modfying Nova to allow it to report such capabilities to Neutron. This may be a specless blueprint or just a bugfix (and then potential backportability), to be determined later. - MTUs are unfortunately immutable. If you change the MTU value by Neutron, you need to restart the instance( (or reattach the port). We consequently agreed on documenting this caveat, which is due to libvirt/qemu not able to change the MTU while the guest is running. - We eventually agreed on letting --hostname (parameter of an instance creation request) to represent a FQDN thru a nova microversion. This value won't be sanitized by nova and directly passed to Neutron as the hostname value. We also agreed on the fact Nova WON'T ever touch the port domain value in metadata, as this is not in the project scope to manage name domains. ### Procedural discussions (skip it if you're not interacting with the Nova contributors) ### # Zed retrospective - We had a productive Zed release and we made a good job on reducing bugs and bug reports. Kudos to the team again. - The microversions etherpad we had was nice but planning microversions usage is hard. WE agreed on rather providing a document to contributors explaining them how to write an API change that adds a new microversion and how to easily rebase this change if a merge conflict occurs (due to the micoversion being taken by another patch that merged) - We agreed on keeping an etherpad for tracking all API changes during milestone-3 - We agreed on filing blueprints for TC goals that impact Nova - bauzas will promote again the use of review-priority label in Gerrit during weekly meetings in order for cores to show their interest in reviewing a particular patch. # Promoting backlog features to new contributors and enhance mentoring - Starting this cycle, we'll put our list of small and easily actionable blueprints into Launchpad bug reports that have a "Wishlist" status and both a 'low-hanging-fruit' and a 'rfe' tag. New contributors or people wanting to mentor a new upstream member are more than welcome to consume that list of 'rfe' bugs and identify the ones they're willing to work on. A detailed process will be documented for helping newcomers to join. - We'll also draft our pile of work we defer into 'backlog specs' if they require further design (and are less actionable from a newcomer perspective) # Other procedural and release discussions - we'll stop using Storyboard for tracking Placement features and bugs and we'll pivot back to Launchpad for the 'placement' sub-project. - we agreed on a *feature* review day possibly 4 weeks before the feature freeze in order to catch up any late design issue we could have missed when reviewing the spec. - we will EOL stein and older nova branches with elodilles proposing the deletion patch. We agred on discussing EOL'ing train at next PTG. - gibi will work on providing a static requirements file for nova that would use minimum versions of our dependencies (non transitively) and modify unit and functional test jobs to rather use this capped requirements file for testing. - we discussed the User Survey and we agreed on discussing any question we may want to add in the next survey during the next weekly meetings. - "2023.1 Antelope" naming is a bit confusing, but we agreed on we should continue to either use "2023.1" or "2023.1 Antelope" for naming our docs. We also wait for guidelines in order to consistently name our next stable branch (2023.1 possibly). (That's the end of procedural and release discussions, please resume here if you skipped the above) ### Technical bits ### # VMware driver status - As currently no job runs happened since April, we agreed on communicating in the nova-compute logs at periodic times that the code isn't tested so operators running it would know its upstream status. - we'll update the supported matrix documentation to refiect this 'UNTESTED' state # TC goals this cycle - for the FIPS goal, we agreed on the fact the current FIPS job (running on centos 9 stream) shouldn't be running on gate and check pipelines. As the current job is busted (all periodic runs go into TIMEOUT state), we also want to modify the job timeout to allow 30 mins more time for running (due to a reboot in the job definition) - for the oslo.privsep goal, no effort is required from a nova perspective (all deliverables are already using privsep). sean-k-mooney can propose a 'rfe' bug (see the note above on new contributors) for modifying our privsep usage in nova (using different privsep context by callers) - for the Ubunutu 2022.4 goal, gmann already provided changes. We need to review them. - for the RBAC goal, let's discuss it in a proper section just below # Next steps on RBAC - we need to test new policy defaults in a full integrated tempest testsuite (meaning with other projects), ideally before the first milestone. - once we check everything works fine as expected, we can flip the default (enabling new policies) before milestone-2 - we'd like to start drafting the new service role usage by two new specs (one for nova, the other one for placement) # Power management in Nova A pile of work I'm proud we gonna start this cycle. This is about disabling/enabling cores on purpose, so power savings occur. - we agreed on supporting it directly in Nova (and to not design and support an external tool which would suppose to draft some heave interface for an easy quickwin). This would just be a config flag to turn on that would enable CPU cores on demand. - a potential follow-up *may* be to use a different CPU governor depending on flavors or images but this won't be scoped for this release. # Power monitoring in Nova I don't really like this name, as monitoring isn't part of the Nova mission statement so I'll clarify. Here, this is about providing an internal readonly interface for power monitoring tools running on guests that would be able to capture host consumption metrics. One example of such monitoring tools is Scaphandre, demonstrated during the last OpenInfraSummit at a keynote. - we agreed on reusing virtiofs support we're gonna introduce in this release for the Manila share attachment usecase - this share would be readonly and would be unique per instance (ie. we wouldn't be supporting multiple guest agents reading different directories) - this share would be enabled thru a configuration flag per compute, and would only be mounted per instance by specific flavor or image extraspec/metadata. # Database soft-deleted records and the archive/purge commands - We don't want to deprecate DB soft-deleted records as some APIs continue to rely on those records. - We rather prefer to add a new parameter to the purge command that will directly delete the 'soft-deleted' records from the main DBs and not only the shadow tables (skipping the need to archive, if the operator wants to use this parameter) # Nova-compute failing at reboot due to vGPU missing devices Talking of bug #1900800, the problem is that mediated devices aren't persistent so nova-compute isn't able to respawn the instances after a reboot if those are vGPU-flavored. - we agreed on the fact that, like any other device, Nova shouldn't try to create them and we should rather ask the operator to pre-create the mediated devices, exaclty like we do for SR-IOV VFs. - we'll accordingly deprecate the mdev creation in the libvirt driver (but we'll continue to support it) and we'll log a warning if Nova has to create one mdev. - we'll change the nova-compute init script to raise a better exception explaining which mdev is missing - we'll document a procedure for explaining how to get existing mdev information and persist them by udev rules (for upgrade cases) # Robustify our compute hostname changes To be clear, at first step, we will continue to *NOT* support nova-compute hostname changes but we'll better detect the hostname change to prevent later issues. - first step to persist the compute UUID on disk seems a good candidate so a spec is targeted this cycle. - next steps could be to robustify our relationships between instance, compute node and service object records but this design will be deferred for later in a backlog spec. # Move to OpenStackClient and SDK OSC is already fully supported in Zed but it continues to rely on novaclient python bindings for calling the Nova API. - we agreed on modifying OSC to rather use openstacksdk (instead of novaclient) for communicating to the Nova APIs. Contributors welcome on this move. - we agreed on stopping to use project client libraries in nova services (eg. cinderclient used by nova-compute) and rather use openstacksdk directly. A 'rfe' bug per project client will be issued, anyone willing to work on it is welcome. - we also agreed on continuing to support novaclient for a couple of releases, as operators or other consumers of this package could require substantial efforts to move to the sdk. - we agreed on changing the release model for novaclient to be independent so we can release anytime we need. # Evacuate to target state We understand the usecase (evacuate an instance shouldn't always turn the evacuated instance on) - that said, we don't want to amend the API for passing a parameter as this would carry a tech debt indefinitely) - we prefer to propose a new microversion that would stop the instance eventually instead of starting it - operators wanting to keep the original behaviour would need to negociate an older microversion to the Nova API as we don't intend to make spawning optionally chosen by API on evacuate. (aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's it for the PTG recap) Kudos, you were brave, you reached that point. Hope your coffee was good and now you feel rejuvenated. Anyway, time for me now to rest my fingers and to enjoy a deserved time off. As said, I'm all up for any questions or remarks that would come from the reading of this enormous thread. -Sylvain

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[nova] Proposing EOL of nova project's old stable branches (Stein, Rocky, Queens)
by Elõd Illés 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Hi, At the 2023.1 Antelope PTG, Nova team discussed that currently open Queens, Rocky and Stein branches for Nova teams' repositories will be moved to End of Life. There are multiple reasons behind this decision: - gate of these branches are broken for a couple of months now - zuul job definitions for these branches use the pre-"zuul-v3" [1] style, which makes the maintenance harder of these jobs - CI on Rocky and Queens use Ubuntu Xenial, which is also beyond its public maintenance window date And last but not least bugfix backports to these branches don't really get enough reviews anymore. If anyone has any interest to keep any of the above branches open then this is the last opportunity to step up, otherwise, as Nova team decided on the PTG, these branches will transition to End of Life. Please let us know before November 7th, we will proceed with the transition in case no responses will come till that day. [1] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/zuulv3.html Thanks in advance, Előd Illés irc:elodilles @ #openstack-nova

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[telemetry][cloudkitty][ceilometer] Billing windows instances
by Thomas Goirand 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Hi there! We're using telemetry+cloudkitty for our rating. We're happy of it, though we're having the issue that we would like to bill instances running Windows. The example given in the Cloudkitty doc shows how to bill more when an instance runs Windows. That works in theory, though in practice, Microsoft has a license model based on how many vCPU the instannce runs. So the model that the Cloudkitty documentation shows simply doesn't work with the SPLA thingy. We've looked at options. One way would of course writing a new custom pollster, but we don't like the idea: this would mean polling for all of the thousands of instances that are running in our deployments. So we would very much prefer having ceilometer running on compute node (with polling_namespaces=compute) to do the work, as this scales a way better. However, Ceilometer polls libvirt, which only has the information about the image ID, not the metadata associated with the image (like the property os_type=windows, for example). So, is there a better way than a dynamic pollster? Can this be done with ceilometer on the compute nodes? Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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Openstack cluster cannot create instances when 1 of 3 rabbitmq cluster node down
by Nguyễn Hữu Khôi 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Description =========== I set up 3 controllers and 3 compute nodes. My system cannot work well when 1 rabbit node in cluster rabbitmq is down, cannot launch instances. It stucked at scheduling. Steps to reproduce =========== Openstack nodes point rabbit://node1:5672,node2:5672,node3:5672// * Reboot 1 of 3 rabbitmq node. * Create instances then it stucked at scheduling. Workaround =========== Point to rabbitmq VIP address. But We cannot share the load with this solution. Please give me some suggestions. Thank you very much. I did google and enabled system log's debug but I still cannot understand why. Nguyen Huu Khoi

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Openstack Cinder and Nova Services cannot work when rabbitmq cluter node down
by Nguyễn Hữu Khôi 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Title: Openstack cluster cannot create when 1 of 3 rabbitmq cluster node down Bug description: Description =========== I set up 3 controllers and 3 compute nodes. My system cannot work when 1 rabbit node in cluster rabbitmq is down, cannot create volume or launch instance. It stucked at creating and scheduling respectively. Steps to reproduce =========== Openstack nodes point rabbit://node1:5672,node2:5672,node3:5672// * Reboot 1 of 3 rabbitmq node. * Create volume or launch instance then it stucked at creating and scheduling respectively. Workaround =========== I need reboot cinder and nova services to create volume and launch instance . More Info: I see in cinder_scheduler, it looks like cinder cannot change to another rabbitmq node. I hope we have ideas for that.. 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task Traceback (most recent call last): 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py", line 441, in get 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task return self._queues[msg_id].get(block=True, timeout=timeout) 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/eventlet/queue.py", line 322, in get 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task return waiter.wait() 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/eventlet/queue.py", line 141, in wait 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task return get_hub().switch() 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/eventlet/hubs/hub.py", line 313, in switch2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task return self.greenlet.switch() 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task _queue.Empty 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task Traceback (most recent call last): 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_service/periodic_task.py", line 216, in run_periodic_tasks 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task task(self, context) 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/nova/compute/manager.py", line 9716, in _sync_power_states 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task db_instances = objects.InstanceList.get_by_host(context, self.host, 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py", line 175, in wrapper 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task result = cls.indirection_api.object_class_action_versions( 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/nova/conductor/rpcapi.py", line 240, in object_class_action_versions 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task return cctxt.call(context, 'object_class_action_versions', 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_messaging/rpc/client.py", line 189, in call 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task result = self.transport._send( 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_messaging/transport.py", line 123, in _send 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task return self._driver.send(target, ctxt, message, 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py", line 689, in send 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task return self._send(target, ctxt, message, wait_for_reply, timeout, 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py", line 678, in _send 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task result = self._waiter.wait(msg_id, timeout, 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py", line 567, in wait 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task message = self.waiters.get(msg_id, timeout=timeout) 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task File "/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.8/site-packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py", line 443, in get 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task raise oslo_messaging.MessagingTimeout( 2022-10-24 14:23:01.945 7 ERROR oslo_service.periodic_task oslo_messaging.exceptions.MessagingTimeout: Timed out waiting for a reply to message ID c8a676a9709242908dcff97046d7976d Nguyen Huu Khoi

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[large-scale][oslo.messaging] RPC workers and db connection
by Arnaud Morin 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Hey all, TLDR: How can I fine tune the number of DB connection on OpenStack services? Long story, with some inline questions: I am trying to figure out the maximum number of db connection we should allow on our db cluster. For this short speech, I will use neutron RPC as example service, but I think nova is acting similar. So, to do so, I identified few parameters that I can tweak: rpc_workers [1] max_pool_size [2] max_overflow [3] executor_thread_pool_size [4] rpc_worker default is half CPU threads available (result of nproc) max_pool_size default is 5 max_overflow default is 50 executor_thread_pool_size is 64 Now imagine I have a server with 40 cores, So rpc_worker will be 20. Each worker will have a DB pool with 5+50 connections available. Each worker will use up to 64 "green" thread. The theorical max connection that I should set on my database is then: rpc_workers*(max_pool_size+max_overflow) = 20*(5+50) = 1100 Q1: am I right here? I have the feeling that this is huge. Now, let's assume each thread is consuming 1 connection from the DB pool. Under heavy load, I am affraid that the 64 threads could exceed the number of max_pool_size+max_overflow. Also, I noticed that some green threads were consuming more than 1 connection from the pool, so I can reach the max even sooner! Another thing, I notice that I have 21 RPC workers, not 20. Is it normal? [1] https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/configuration/neutron.html#DEFAUL… [2] https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/configuration/neutron.html#databa… [3] https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/configuration/neutron.html#databa… [4] https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/configuration/neutron.html#DEFAUL… Cheers, Arnaud.

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RE: RE: [yoga][cinder] Cinder NFS backend: Compute service cannot access volume file (UID/GID problem)
by Felix Hüttner 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Sorry, no idea about that, for us the group also has write permissions -- Felix Huettner From: 박경원 <park0kyung0won(a)dgist.ac.kr> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 9:24 AM To: Felix Hüttner <felix.huettner(a)mail.schwarz>; openstack-discuss(a)lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: RE: [yoga][cinder] Cinder NFS backend: Compute service cannot access volume file (UID/GID problem) Hello Felix Thank you very much for kind reply Do I also need to change permission setting of volume file in /var/lib/nova/mnt/... ? By default its: drwxr-x--- 2 64061 64061 11 Oct 24 04:19 99c4f7e8b15983b65e20cb7d37db899f group has only read and execute permission, no write permission ---------- 원본 메일 ---------- 보낸사람: "Felix Hüttner" <felix.huettner(a)mail.schwarz<mailto:felix.huettner@mail.schwarz>> 받는사람: "park0kyung0won(a)dgist.ac.kr<mailto:park0kyung0won@dgist.ac.kr>" <park0kyung0won(a)dgist.ac.kr<mailto:park0kyung0won@dgist.ac.kr>>, "openstack-discuss(a)lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org>" <openstack-discuss(a)lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org>> 날짜: 2022-10-24 (월) 16:12:48 제목: RE: [yoga][cinder] Cinder NFS backend: Compute service cannot access volume file (UID/GID problem) Hi, we are solving this issue for us by creating a “cinder” group on all hypervisors with the same gid (64061 in your case). Then we add the nova user to the cinder group and we are fine afterwards. You might need set “dynamic_ownership = 0" In your libvirt qemu.conf -- Felix Huettner From: 박경원 <park0kyung0won(a)dgist.ac.kr<mailto:park0kyung0won@dgist.ac.kr>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 7:21 AM To: openstack-discuss(a)lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org> Subject: [yoga][cinder] Cinder NFS backend: Compute service cannot access volume file (UID/GID problem) Hi I'm trying to setup cinder-volume service with NFS backend When I create a new VM instance with a volume from web UI, cinder-volume service on storage node creates volume file just fine But I get the following error on compute node and instance fails to spawn. 2022-10-24 02:14:25.347 402789 ERROR nova.compute.manager [req-47ec9fb1-9daa-4c24-8673-538797a217cc 8769cfaf608349bd9fbb36f92b188fe3 e1e8e8397cde49899b00d09dec76b29e - default default] [instance: 5acb1dc3-0685-4980-977b-b6dfff6dfb45] Instance failed to spawn: libvirt.libvirtError: internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor: 2022-10-24T02:14:24.819644Z qemu-system-x86_64: -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/var/lib/nova/mnt/99c4f7e8b15983b65e20cb7d37db899f/volume-8f478992-dde3-4c20-9005-61cd34eacf30","aio":"native","node-name":"libvirt-2-storage","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap"}: Could not open '/var/lib/nova/mnt/99c4f7e8b15983b65e20cb7d37db899f/volume-8f478992-dde3-4c20-9005-61cd34eacf30': Permission denied I've added appropriate configs to apparmor profile. (Using Ubuntu 22.04) Apparmor isn't blocking this access. While the instance is spawning, I've checked ownership of the volume file on compute node: root@compute-node:/var/lib/nova/mnt$ ls -al total 17 drwxr-xr-x 3 nova nova 4096 Oct 24 04:19 . drwxr-xr-x 12 nova nova 4096 Oct 24 02:14 .. drwxr-x--- 2 64061 64061 11 Oct 24 04:19 99c4f7e8b15983b65e20cb7d37db899f It seems like cinder user on storage node creates volume file with UID/GID of 64061 (cinder user's UID/GID) But nova user on compute node has UID/GID of 64060, therefore cannot open volume file(/var/lib/nova/mnt/99c4f7e8b15983b65e20cb7d37db899f/volume-8f478992-dde3-4c20-9005-61cd34eacf30) Should I manually set the UID/GID of nova user on compute node to 64061, so both nova user on compute node and cinder user on storage node would have the same UID/GID? Feels like this duct taping isn't a proper solution. Did I miss something? Thank you Diese E Mail enthält möglicherweise vertrauliche Inhalte und ist nur für die Verwertung durch den vorgesehenen Empfänger bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfänger sein, setzen Sie den Absender bitte unverzüglich in Kenntnis und löschen diese E Mail. Hinweise zum Datenschutz finden Sie hier<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.daten…>. Diese E Mail enthält möglicherweise vertrauliche Inhalte und ist nur für die Verwertung durch den vorgesehenen Empfänger bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfänger sein, setzen Sie den Absender bitte unverzüglich in Kenntnis und löschen diese E Mail. Hinweise zum Datenschutz finden Sie hier<https://www.datenschutz.schwarz>.

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RE: RE: [yoga][cinder] Cinder NFS backend: Compute service cannot access volume file (UID/GID problem)
by 박경원 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

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[yoga][cinder] Cinder NFS backend: Compute service cannot access volume file (UID/GID problem)
by 박경원 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

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[largescale-sig] No meeting this week
by Thierry Carrez 23 Oct '22

23 Oct '22

Hi everyone, With the PTG just over, the Large Scale SIG will not be meeting this week. Our next regular IRC meeting will be November 9, at 1500utc on #openstack-operators on OFTC. Feel free to add topics to the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting Regards, -- Thierry Carrez

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single Network interface
by Parsa Aminian 23 Oct '22

23 Oct '22

Hello I use kolla ansible wallaby version . my compute node has only one port . is it possible to use this server ? as I know openstack compute need 2 port one for management and other for external user network . Im using provider_networks and it seems neutron_external_interface could not be the same as network_interface because openvswitch need to create br-ex bridge on separate port is there any solution that i can config my compute with 1 port ?

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[tc][all][policy][rbac] RBAC 2023.1 Antelope cycle Virtual PTG discussions summary
by Ghanshyam Mann 23 Oct '22

23 Oct '22

Hello Everyone, Last week, I tried to attend all the RBAC-related sessions on various projects. We mainly discussed the next steps on RBAC and implementing the project personas if not yet done. I captured the summary and outcome of the discussions of those projects in the below etherpad: Look for the section: "RBAC/Policy 2023.1 Antelope PTG summary". If I have missed any project discussion, please add it to the etherpad. - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/rbac-goal-tracking One of the big outcomes, we agreed on all the projects (implemented phase-1) to enable the scope checks and new defaults by default. But before doing that, we need to test the new defaults and scope in Tempest (tempest plugin) integrated gate. I have started working on the job enabling the scope and new defaults[1]. [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/614484 -gmann

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[tc][all][ Technical Committee 2023.1 Antelope cycle Virtual PTG discussions summary
by Ghanshyam Mann 23 Oct '22

23 Oct '22

Hello Everyone, I am summarizing the Technical Committee discussion that happened in the 2023.1 Antelope cycle PTG last week. Also, in case anyone wanted to search for all the projects etherpad later after ptgbot cleans them, I have added those to this wiki[1] Attendance: ========= * ~30 on Monday, ~25 on Thursday, ~20 on Friday Improvement in project governance: =========================== We continued the discussion from Monday and discussed a few high-level criteria which can be the potential criteria to monitor inactive projects. Along with contributors, event, and meeting occurrence is one of them but not all. JayF will be working on this to list the exact criteria/things TC can monitor to find and work on help inactive projects. User Survey: ========== * 2021 user Survey result analysis: We started with the pending review of the 2021 survey analysis[2]. There wasn't 2020 analysis so, the comparison was done using 2019. Overall, the trends in the survey were positive. We discussed adding the question about UI participants especially if users need new features to be implemented in UI then what prevents them to help and contribute? * 2022 User Survey result: knikolla and I will be working on the analysis of this survey result. jungleboyj will help on documenting the process and tips to analyze the survey xls which is not an easy task. Thanks to jungleboyj for doing the survey analysis and helping with the 2022 survey too. * 2023 User Survey question review: While doing the 2021 survey analysis, we discussed the below changes in 2023 survey. ** Remove "Other ways users participate:" ** Add: 1. how users are consuming OS. From pypi packages? From RHOSP? etc. 2. How are users interacting with OpenStack? Through Horizon? CLI? Skyline? An internally developed tool? etc. 3. Adding a sub-question about UI development help in "To which projects does your organization contribute maintenance resources such as patches for bugs and reviews on master or stable branches?" 4. Asking about what all OSS/software/services are used in your OpenStack provisioned cloud/resource. * Action: As the next step, we will work on the exact wording for the above questions and send it to Allison before the end of Oct month. Next step for OSC work ================== We started the discussion on sdk/osc should continue supporting the old interfaces even if we are not able to test them properly. Anyone running a very old cloud should be able to use the sdk/osc latest. We agree and Artem mentioned being more careful about removing the things. Next, we discussed where we stand on OSC work and direction from the project side and good progress from nova, neutron, and manila (might be a few more) but at the same time, many other projects need work on fixing the feature gaps. Glance is also in agreement to work towards OSC. There was a question on when and how we should work towards deprecating/removing the project's python client. The best way is to start implementing the new features in OSC and try their best to fill the old feature gap. Based on the current state, we agree to start this work as one of the community-wide and Artem volunteers to help here. * Action: ** Propose this as a community-wide goal "focus on fixing the feature gaps in osc not to remove the pythonclient which can be another goal" ** Look at devstack's use of OSC to see if we can enable token caching and perhaps use a smaller venv for performance Consistent and Secure Default RBAC ============================ As a good amount of the services are ready with the project personas, We will be testing them in the integrated gate (tempest and tempest plugins jobs), and based on the results we will enable the scope to enforce and new defaults enforce by default in this cycle. Also, services can start implementing phase 2 of the goal which is the service-to-service role. On Horizon question of moving to new defaults. because of the explicit policy files (with defaults) on the horizon side, the operator will not be able to just switch the flag until they change the policy file. For a better migration path and getting one more cycle to test the new defaults by default on the service side, it is better for Horizon to move to new defaults in the next cycle. FIPs goal ======= Ade lee provided the current status[3] of the goal which is good progress. There is work going on having the ubuntu based FIPs enabled job[4] and that will be to achieve the goal of having of voting job in the check/gate pipeline. Migrate CI/CD jobs to Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) ========================================= Projects are testing the jobs on Jammy but not all[5], we encourage the projects to start testing your project jobs before the deadline which is m-1 (Nov 18), and fix the issues if there are any. One known issue is Ceph job failing on Jammy as there aren't jammy upstream packages. There are packages in UCA and Ubuntu proper that could be used instead. The community-wide goal process in a world with few contributors =================================================== This topic is on how we can improve the community-wide goal progress and productivity but at the same time reduce the overhead on projects. Also, to highlight that the Champion of a goal is not required to do all the work and it is up to the champion. knikolla will work on the goal documentation to try goal overhead minimum. We will be more careful with goal selection to make sure if any work can be done without a community-wide goal then we should proceed that way. * Action: knikolla: see opportunities for rewording the community goal document. mention: striving to keep goals to a minimum to reduce overhead on teams and try to build consensus first. Pop-Up Team checks ================ We have two active popup teams, 1. Image Encryption 2. Policy(RBAC). Both have pending work to finish so will continue in this cycle also. Support policy for 32-bit platforms support ================================= Zigo is testing the OpenStack on 32-bit and filed bugs[6]. As we do not test it in the upstream CI/CD, we will not be committing to its support. But it is completely ok to fix the bug or add a skip in tests. Thanks to zigo for testing and reporting the bugs. Fixing docs build issues with recent Sphinx ================================ Sphinx is capped at 4.5.0 in upper constraints for a long time and whether we should move our doc to 6.0 or not is the question. Moving to 6.0 needs more work in openstackdocstheme. Until we have someone fixing things, it is ok to continue on Sphinx 4.5.0. Election retrospective: ================= We had a good amount of discussion on elections and many ideas to improve them in the future. Also by discussing the k8s election process with k8s steering committee members. We also discussed TC Chair election process to record the nomination in a better way. This is still not concluded and we continue the discussion in TC. Overall it was a productive discussion and we came up with below action items: *Action: 1. Extend the nomination and voting period to two weeks and also communicate the election well in advance. 2. Along with existing projects/SIG repos, add a few more related repos (governance, etc) in election tooling to count the electorate. 3. Add in the election process: call for AC on openstack-discuss or any other ML before the deadline. 4. Appoint a TC liaison as a point of contact to track the election dates more carefully and ICAL for election tasks will be a good idea to send/add. 5. Update the TC charter to mention the election period, and deadline explicitly. Cross-community sessions with k8s steering committee team: =============================================== We invited Kubernetes Steering Committee members to TC sessions. Tim and Christoph joined the sessions. This is a great way to collaborate between two communities. Following the introduction from both sides, we discussed various topics and share the process, challenges, and feedback from both sides. The election process, contributor recruiting, and how to engage them as long-term contributors. Also having part-time or non-corporate contributors is still a challenge for both communities. We also discussed the operator engagement challenges OpenStack is facing. Kubernetes operator thing is a bit complicated and they have app dev, cluster, app, and infra operator. Similar to OpenInfra foundation to the OpenStack community, CNCF foundation plays an important role for them to connect the operator with the community as much as possible. Discuss and clarify the supported upgrade-path testing in PTI: =============================================== To provide a better upgrade path, we decided to test the old distro version also whenever we will bump the distro version in our CI/CD. Below are details of the upgrade testing we will be following: Agree: * Supporting two distro versions when we bump the new distro version in any release: (this is only for the release bump of the distro and after that, we can go back to a single distro version testing) ** Run single tempest job in project gate on old distro version, not all jobs ** Add the previous python version unit test job in the new release testing template. * For non-SLURP releases, we will try not to change the testing runtime unless it is very much required due to the EOL of versions, we are using in testing. * In case the project has to add some feature that needs a new version of deps which is not supported in the old distro version then they need to be explicit about it and communicate in a better way. * Action: I will document the above in PTI. Guidelines for using the OpenStack release version/name and project version in 1. releasenotes 2. Documentation ===================================================================================== In Zed cycle, TC passed a resolution[7] and also prepared the guidelines[8] on using the release number as a primary identifier. During nova PTG, there was a question on what is the recommendation for using OpenStack version and package version (say Nova 27.0.0) in project documentation, releasenotes etc. After discussing the multiple options listed in etherpad we agree to go for the below: * OpenStack <release version> (<project> <project vesion>) Example: OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.0) I will add this to the release identifier page[8] so that all projects can use it consistently. Discussion on projects (like neutron, ceilometer ) in Upper Constraints: ===================================================== Having projects in u-c makes it difficult for users to have a consistent deployment of those services. But we do not recommend using the u-c in production and it can be explicitly mentioned in the requirement and project-team-guide document. * Action: tonyb to document the upper constraints usage expectation (especially for production usage) in the requirement document as well as in project-team-guide[9]. Zed Retrospective: ============== In the end, we discussed the Zed cycle retrospective. * What went well? ** Good amount of work in the zed cycle[10] ** New TC members ** Good participation in meetings especially video call ** TC & Community Engagement (leaders interaction) improving *** i18 SIG team having there helped to proceed with i18 SIG work One thing to improve next time is to explicitly call out the team/members with a courtesy ping for future PTG if any related discussion. We do send the agenda on ML in advance but no harm in ping also. Meeting time check: =============== TC weekly Video calls are more productive compared to text meetings and we will do two video calls in a month. We will also start a poll to select the meeting time. 2023.1 cycle TC Tracker ================== I prepared the TC tracker for 2023.1 and listed all the actionable working items that came up during the PTG discussion. This is helpful for tracking the working items. - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-2023.1-tracker Thank you for reading the summary or I will say detailed summary :), have a nice weekend everyone. [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/2023.1/Etherpads [2] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/836888 [3] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/fips_goal_status [4] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/861457/ [5] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/migrate-to-jammy [6] https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1991406 [7] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20220524-release-identifica… [8] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html [9] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/dependency-management.html [10] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-zed-tracker -gmann

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