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+1 for all the reasons Duncan, Rob, and John mention.
Also for the multi-talk submitters, this will be a forcing function, a self-selection, so they choose their best talks/items of interest.
Cheers
Malini

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From: Clark, Robert Graham [mailto:robert.clark at hpe.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 3:17 PM
To: John Dickinson <me at not.mn>; openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Call for Speakers Feedback, Next Steps

I agree with Duncan's proposed questions and the idea of capping the number of submissions somewhere from 3-5 per person (per company doesn't work imho).

The biggest problem I've found as a track chair is not really knowing what a talk will focus on (or even what the content will be) from the abstract that's presented to me - this problem is significantly compounded when the talk gets many votes.

We certainly have to improve the quality of abstracts and we need a way to reduce the noise level that the voters are faced with. I'm a track chair and I could barely stand leafing through the many submissions on my chosen area of specialization (security) I can't imagine being your average attendee and really spending multiple hours voting on talks - that's just not realistic.

Cheers
-Rob

(Also +1 to an etherpad)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Dickinson [mailto:me at not.mn]
> Sent: 09 December 2015 22:34
> To: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Call for Speakers Feedback, Next 
> Steps
> 
> Is there a difference between "submitter" and "presenter"? eg in the 
> past one person may submit a lot of talks, all with different presenters on them.
> 
> I like changing the incentivization away from the spaghetti approach 
> (throw a bunch on the wall and see what sticks). Limiting submissions per person (and one person not being in more than a certain number of talks) is a good start.
> 
> 
> Another idea (one I'm much less sure of) is having track chairs or 
> someone giving guidance for submissions. eg "In the storage track, 
> we'd like to hear talks that (1) technically explain parts of the code 
> or (2) describe a production deployment and how that contributed back upstream". I'm not entirely sure how that would end up resulting in a different final talk selection, but I'd hope it might raise the quality of submissions.
> 
> --John
> 
> 
> 
> On 9 Dec 2015, at 14:09, Kenneth Hui wrote:
> 
> > I would second the limit on number of submissions per person.
> >
> > Also, we may want to consider having a submitter upload or link to a 
> > video of him or her presenting; this would help in assessing 
> > someone's ability to present to an audience.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Tokyo Summit track chairs,
> >>
> >> We’re moving quickly to open the call for speakers for the Austin 
> >> Summit next week and want to make sure we incorporate feedback from 
> >> prior discussions on this list. Unfortunately, we didn’t have much 
> >> turnout in Tokyo for the Summit tools & processes session, where we 
> >> were hoping to facilitate more discussion. We only had two people 
> >> show up (outside of Foundation staff), so we primarily discussed 
> >> the mobile app and reviewed the prototype.
> >>
> >> Based on earlier feedback in this thread, there is a desire to 
> >> manage the growing number of submissions while increasing the 
> >> quality. We have two levers we could pull for the submission 
> >> process, but need to make decisions by the end of this week:
> >> 1. Do we want to cap the number of sessions that each person can 
> >> submit at 5?
> >> 2. Do we want to add any questions or requirements to the submission form?
> >> See suggestions below.
> >>
> >> For #2, we are already making a few minor changes this round to 
> >> improve session tagging and ask speakers for “links to past 
> >> presentations” and “areas of expertise.” For the session submission, we currently ask:
> >>
> >> - Session Title
> >> - Session level (beginner, intermediate, advanced)
> >> - Abstract
> >> - Short Description (450 characters max for YouTube and mobile app)
> >> - Select track from dropdown
> >> - Tags
> >>
> >> I would suggest consolidating the abstract and short description to 
> >> be one question (because submitters often copy/paste it anyway), 
> >> and then ask a few additional questions:
> >>
> >> - Who is the intended audience for your session? Please be specific.
> >> - What is the problem or use case you’re addressing in this session?
> >> - What should attendees expect to learn?
> >>
> >> We are also making a few changes to the tracks, primarily grouping 
> >> them into content categories to better promote and layout the 
> >> content across the week.
> >>
> >> Finally, we will very soon need to select the next round of track chairs.
> >> The Foundation has typically accepted nominations from the 
> >> community and appointed track chairs based on subject matter 
> >> expertise, contributions, working group involvement, etc. To help 
> >> bring in new perspectives, one proposal was to ask track chairs to 
> >> decide two people from their team who would continue for the next 
> >> cycle and nominate two new people from the community to keep things 
> >> fresh. We’ve gotten a lot of feedback that another community vote 
> >> for track chairs is not desirable, but we could more broadly 
> >> communicate the window for nominations. We’re accepting nominations 
> >> now (email summit at openstack.org) and hope to have track chairs decided by mid-January. Any thoughts on the process?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Lauren
> >>
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