This is being discussed on the dev list in multiple threads: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/020402.html and http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/020403.html I think everyone connected to infra - including crucially Jim :) - is saying the same thing, so I'm just doing the paperwork of getting it it's own thread and highlighting it here, so we can have it in the meeting in 4+ days. -Rob -- Robert Collins <rbtcollins at hp.com> Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud