[openstack-dev] [all] Onboarding rooms postmortem, what did you do, what worked, lessons learned

Kendall Nelson kennelson11 at gmail.com
Fri May 19 14:30:21 UTC 2017

Thank you so much for getting this started Sean!

I have gotten a lot of feedback that people liked the on-boarding rooms,
but I would be interested to know more about what people did so we can
coordinate better next time. This round I left a lot of the decisions up to
the different teams since this was a new type of session for the Summit so
we could figure out what works best.

I started a resource collection here[1] to round up materials.  I am trying
to find a place to post them so that people that weren't able to attend to
look at since we weren't able to get recordings in the room this time-
definitely something to try to coordinate next round!

Thanks again,

-Kendall (diablo_rojo)

[1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116513.html

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:40 AM Sean Dague <sean at dague.net> wrote:

> On 05/19/2017 09:22 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
> > If you ran a room, please post the project, what you did in the room,
> > what you think worked, what you would have done differently. If you
> > attended a room you didn't run, please provide feedback about which one
> > it was, and what you thought worked / didn't work from the other side of
> > the table.
> Project: Nova
> Attendees: 25 - 30
> Notes: (this conflicted with Baremetal/VM platform part 1, may have
> impacted attendance)
> Etherpad:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-nova-project-onboarding
> What we did:
> To get the room warmed up (it was the first post keynote session), we
> prepared a document which was an annotated flow of the logs of booting
> up a server with openstack client -
> https://github.com/sdague/nova-boot-flow/blob/master/flow.rst - and
> talked through all of that, fielding questions along the way. That
> actually took about 45 minutes because 20 minutes in the room had warmed
> up and started asking a bunch of questions (especially around scheduling
> which always seems like a hot area).
> We used the back half of the session for just audience questions. Some
> of the more interesting ones were diving into what a context really is
> (that's a pretty core concept in multiple projects, but one we forget is
> new to people).
> We did an adhoc diagramming of the basic api.py -> rpcapi.py ->
> manager.py pattern in the code that hits all the different daemons. And
> even looked at some of the directory structures on how this is organized.
> There was a good conversation towards the end on debug strategies. Most
> of us are print/log debuggers, but guru mediation was news to most folks
> in the room. Definitely clear that there is a need for a pdb guide for
> OpenStack (by someone that regularly uses it).
> There was also a good discussion around types of arguments in Nova
> function calls, and how much one can trust they know what a variable
> named "instance" really is.
> What worked:
> It was really good to have some interactive technical content pre canned
> to get the conversation going. Rooms start cold, and you need to get
> people interactive.
> Questions phase turned out really good. They also seemed pretty spread
> around the audience.
> Do differently next time:
> Recording would have been great.
> We did a poor job of fielding questions off the etherpad because my
> laptop was being used show flows or answers. Next time it would be good
> to have 2 computers up, one on the etherpad watching for questions from
> quieter people there, while we have other relevant answer material on
> the projector.
>         -Sean
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> Sean Dague
> http://dague.net
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