[openstack-dev] Tracing (all the places)

Joshua Harlow harlowja at fastmail.com
Fri Aug 4 04:11:59 UTC 2017


vinhnt at vn.fujitsu.com wrote:
> Hello harlowja,
>
> I'm really happy to see that you are back in this `tracing` topic [and @boris-42 (too)].

We never left, haha, but ya, I can say (and probably boris would agree) 
that trying to get OSprofiler started and integrated somewhat 'burned' 
both of us (it involved a ton of convincing people of the value of it, 
when I had more hoped that the value of it was obvious). But I'm glad 
that people are starting to realize its value (even if they have to be 
told and educated by google or other companies that have been doing this 
for a long time).

>
> Last week, we saw that Rajul proposed 02 new blueprint in OSprofiler [1] and [2].
> Besides, some other blueprints are being implemented in OSprofiler
> such as overhead control [3] and OpenTracing compatible [4] [5]
> (Uber Jaeger [6] is one of OpenTracing compatible tracer out there).
>
> For OpenTracing part, I have a PoC to make OSprofiler compatible with
> OpenTracing specification at [5]. You can take a look at it this time too.
> However, this time, I focus on reporting span/trace to other destinations
> (rather than current drivers for OSprofiler[7]).
>
> OpenTracing API is changing a little bit fast for now, therefore, some APIs will be deprecated soon.
> I had some discussions with OpenTracing community about some trouble when making OSprofiler
> compatible with OpenTracing API.

Ya I expected this, opentracing also I think has a python 
client/wrapper(?), have you looked at what this offers (last time I 
checked most of opentracing was just a bunch of wrappers actually, and 
not much actually code that did anything unique)?

>
> For OpenStack part, last cycle, Performance team and other OpenStack developers added
> OSprofiler support for many other projects (Nova, Magnum, Ironic, Zun ...)
> and Panko, Aodh, Swift are on the way.

Yippe, now the bigger questions is where are all the UIs visualizing the 
traces (I know boris had https://boris-42.github.io/ngk.html but there 
has to be something nicer that perhaps the OpenTracing community has for 
a UI, ideally not a java monster like Zipkin, ha). Any thoughts there?

>
> At last, hope you will join us (again) in OpenStack `tracing` things.

We shall see :-P

>
> [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/osprofiler/+spec/asynchronous-trace-collection
> [2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/osprofiler/+spec/tail-based-coherent-sampling
> [3] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/osprofiler/+spec/osprofiler-overhead-control
> [4] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/osprofiler/+spec/opentracing-compatible
> [5] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480018/
> [6] http://jaeger.readthedocs.io/en/latest/architecture/
> [7] https://github.com/openstack/osprofiler/tree/master/osprofiler/drivers
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vinh Nguyen Trong
> PODC – Fujitsu Vietnam Ltd.



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