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On Fri, May 27, 2016, at 09:25 AM, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up Vasyl!
> 
> > At the moment Nova with ironic virt_driver consider instance as deleted,
> > while on Ironic side server goes to cleaning which can take a while. As
> > result current implementation of Nova tempest tests doesn't work for case
> > when Ironic is enabled.

What is the actual failure? Is it a capacity issue because nodes do not
become available again quickly enough?

> >
> > There are two possible options how to fix it:
> >
> >  Update Nova tempest test scenarios for Ironic case to wait when cleaning is
> > finished and Ironic node goes to 'available' state.
> >
> > Mark instance as deleted in Nova only after cleaning is finished on Ironic
> > side.
> >
> > I'm personally incline to 2 option. From user side successful instance
> > termination means that no instance data is available any more, and nobody
> > can access/restore that data. Current implementation breaks this rule.
> > Instance is marked as successfully deleted while in fact it may be not
> > cleaned, it may fail to clean and user will not know anything about it.
> >
> 
> I don't really like option #2, cleaning can take several hours
> depending on the configuration of the node. I think that it would be a
> really bad experience if the user of the cloud had to wait a really
> long time before his resources are available again once he deletes an
> instance. The idea of marking the instance as deleted in Nova quickly
> is aligned with our idea of making bare metal deployments
> look-and-feel like VMs for the end user. And also (one of) the
> reason(s) why we do have a separated state in Ironic for DELETING and
> CLEANING.

I agree. From a user perspective once they've issued a delete their
instance should be gone. Any delay in that actually happening is purely
an internal implementation detail that they should not care about.

> 
> I think we should go with #1, but instead of erasing the whole disk
> for real maybe we should have a "fake" clean step that runs quickly
> for tests purposes only?
> 
> Cheers,
> Lucas
> 
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