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So for thin containers, as opposed to data containers, there is no
migration script needed whatsoever. All it takes is to tear down
neutron-agents and start thin containers.

On 21 February 2016 at 06:47, Jeffrey Zhang <zhang.lei.fly at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the thin container idea, and I am +1 too. But the only concern is
> that we MUST provide a robust migrate script( or Ansible role task) to do
> the convert stuff. Doesn't we have enough time for this?
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Michal Rostecki <mrostecki at mirantis.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 02/20/2016 05:39 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
>>>
>>> Sam,
>>>
>>> I seem to recall Paul was not in favor, so there was not a majority of
>>> cores there.  There were 6 core reviewers at the midcycle, and if you
>>> only count kolla-core (which at this time I do for policy changes) that
>>> means we had a vote of 5.  We have 11 core reviewers, so we need a vote
>>> of 6+ for simple majority. I was also sort of –1 because it is an
>>> exception, but I do agree the value is warranted.  I believe I expressed
>>> at  the midcycle that I was –1 to the idea, atleast until the broader
>>> core review team voted.  If I wasn't clear on that, I apologize.
>>>
>>> I'll roll with the community on this one unless I have to tie break –
>>> then groan :)
>>>
>>> That is why a decision was made by the group to take this to the mailing
>>> list.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> -steve
>>>
>>> From: Sam Yaple <samuel at yaple.net <mailto:samuel at yaple.net>>
>>> Reply-To: "sam at yaple.net <mailto:sam at yaple.net>" <sam at yaple.net
>>> <mailto:sam at yaple.net>>, "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for
>>> usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>> <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>>> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 9:32 AM
>>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
>>> <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>> <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers
>>> to stable/liberty
>>>
>>>     I was under the impression we did have a majority of cores in favor
>>>     of the idea at the midcycle. But if this is a vote-vote, then I am a
>>>     very strong +1 as well. This is something operators will absolutely
>>>     want and and need.
>>>
>>>     Sam Yaple
>>>
>>>     On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michał Jastrzębski
>>>     <inc007 at gmail.com <mailto:inc007 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Strong +1 from me. This have multiple benefits:
>>>         Easier (aka possible) debugging of networking in running envs
>>> (not
>>>         having tools like tcpdump at your disposal is a pain) - granted,
>>>         there
>>>         are ways to get this working without thin containers but require
>>>         fair
>>>         amount of docker knowledge.
>>>         Docker daemon restart will not break routers - currently with
>>> docker
>>>         restart container with namespace dies and we lose our routers
>>> (they
>>>         will migrate using HA, but well, still a networking downtime).
>>> This
>>>         will no longer be the case so...
>>>         Upgrades with no vm downtime whatsoever depends on this one.
>>>         If we could deploy liberty code with all these nice stuff, I'd be
>>>         happier person;)
>>>
>>>         Cheers,
>>>         Michal
>>>
>>>         On 20 February 2016 at 07:40, Steven Dake (stdake)
>>>         <stdake at cisco.com <mailto:stdake at cisco.com>> wrote:
>>>         > Just clarifying, this is not a "revote" - there were not enough
>>> core
>>>         > reviewers in favor of this idea at the Kolla midcycle, so we
>>> need to have a
>>>         > vote on the mailing list to sort out this policy decision of
>>> managing
>>>         > stable/liberty.
>>>         >
>>>         > Regards,
>>>         > -steve
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > From: Steven Dake <stdake at cisco.com <mailto:stdake at cisco.com>>
>>>         > Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>> questions)"
>>>         > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>>         <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>>>         > Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 6:28 AM
>>>         > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>> questions)"
>>>         > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>>         <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>>>         > Subject: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin
>>> containers to
>>>         > stable/liberty
>>>         >
>>>         > Folks,
>>>         >
>>>         > There were not enough core reviewers to pass a majority
>>> approval of the
>>>         > neutron thin container backport idea, so we separated it out
>>> from fixing
>>>         > stable/liberty itself.
>>>         >
>>>         > I am going to keep voting open for *2* weeks this time.  The
>>> reason for the
>>>         > two weeks is I would like a week of discussion before people
>>> just blindly
>>>         > vote ;)
>>>         >
>>>         > Voting begins now and concludes March 4th.  Since this is a
>>> policy decision,
>>>         > no veto votes are permitted, just a +1 and a  -1.  Abstaining
>>> is the same as
>>>         > voting –1.
>>>         >
>>
>>
>> I'm +1, but under condition that we will provide some script to migrate
>> from supervisord-container to thin-containers (even if such a script will
>> bring risk of downtime of the cloud).
>>
>>
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