[openstack-dev] [keystone][all] Move from active distrusting model to trusting model

David Chadwick d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk
Mon Nov 23 23:06:15 UTC 2015



On 23/11/2015 21:59, Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from David Chadwick's message of 2015-11-23 13:20:56 -0800:
>> Since the ultimate arbiter is the PTL, then it would be wrong to allow
>> members of the same organisation as the PTL to perform all three code
>> functions without the input of anyone from any other organisation. This
>> places too much power in the hands of one organisation to the detriment
>> of the overall community.
>>
> 
> This is just a vote for distrusting the community. If you think there's
> "power" in being able to merge things, and that organizations will abuse
> this power, then you vote for distrust.

No, rather for the abuse of power by organisations, which is rather
different :-) We have multiple examples of these all the time.

> 
> However, I don't think PTLs have power to censure anybody nor do they
> have absolute arbitration powers. They break ties. Whatever discretion
> they have can almost certainly be overridden by the TC according to this:
> 
> "...  if a given debate cannot be clearly resolved, the PTL can decide
> the outcome. Although the TC is generally not involved in team-internal
> decisions, it still has oversight over team decisions, especially when
> they affect other teams or go contrary to general OpenStack goals."
> 
> http://governance.openstack.org/reference/charter.html#project-team-leads
> 
> So I think if a PTL were to act improperly in a way that the project
> team disagreed with, it would be well within the right and charter of
> the TC to intervene as part of oversight.
> 
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