[openstack-dev] [Diesel] Proposal for new project

Roshan Agrawal roshan.agrawal at RACKSPACE.COM
Sun Jan 19 15:50:54 UTC 2014

Diesel seems to be a subset of what Solum delivers. 

For reference:
Solum Wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum
Solum Roadmap: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/HighLevelRoadmap

We should discuss combining efforts instead of duplicating initiatives.
From: Jay Pipes [jaypipes at gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Diesel] Proposal for new project

On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 03:31 +0000, Raymond, Rob wrote:
> I would like to gauge interest in a new project named Diesel.
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diesel
> If you are already familiar with Savanna, the best way to describe it is:
> Savanna is to map reduce applications as Diesel is to web applications.
> The mission of Diesel is to allow OpenStack clouds to run applications.
> The cloud administrator can control the non functional aspects, freeing up
> the application developer to focus on their application and its
> functionality.
> In the spirit of Google App Engine, Heroku, Engine Yard and others, Diesel
> runs web applications in the cloud. It can be used by cloud administrators
> to define the application types that they support. They are also
> responsible for defining through Diesel how these applications run on top
> of their cloud infrastructure. Diesel will control the availability and
> scalability of the web application deployment.

Hi Rob,

So I've read through the above wiki page a couple times, and I'm really
having trouble understanding how Diesel differs from Solum.

In the wiki page, you mention:

"Solum - Solum is focused on the development lifecycle for the
application. The application may be one that Diesel can run."

Could you elaborate on how you envision how Diesel differs from Solum in
its basic intent? Solum deploys applications into a cloud. Diesel is
intended to "run" applications in clouds, but I'm not sure how there is
a difference between deploying an application into a cloud and running

Perhaps I'm just missing something, though, so perhaps you might


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