[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

Nachi Ueno nachi at ntti3.com
Mon Jan 13 19:39:02 UTC 2014

Hi Anita

Location: I am about to sign the contract for Salle du Parc at 3625 Parc
> avenue, a room in a residence of McGill University.

^^^ Let's me confirmed the room number?

2014/1/7 Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>:
> On 01/08/2014 03:10 AM, Nachi Ueno wrote:
>> Hi Anita
>> Let's me join this session also.
>> Nachi Ueno
>> NTT i3
> Wonderful Nachi. We have spoken on irc to ensure you have your questions
> answered.
> It will be great to have another neutron-core at the code sprint.
> Thank you,
> Anita.
>> 2014/1/5 Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>:
>>> On 01/05/2014 03:42 AM, Sukhdev Kapur wrote:
>>>> Folks,
>>>> I finally got over my fear of weather and booked my flight and hotel for
>>>> this sprint.
>>>> I am relatively new to OpenStack community with a strong desire to learn
>>>> and contribute.
>>> Having a strong desire to participate effectively is great.
>>> The difficulty for us is that we have already indicated that we need
>>> experienced participants at the code sprint. [0]
>>> Having long periods of silence and then simply announcing you have
>>> booked your flights makes things difficult since we have been in
>>> conversation with others about this for some time. I'm not saying don't
>>> come, I am saying that this now puts myself and Mark in a position of
>>> having to explain ourselves to others regarding consistency.
>>> Mark and I will address this, though I will need to discuss this with
>>> Mark to hear his thoughts and I am unable right now since I am at a
>>> conference all week. [1]
>>> Going forward, having regular conversations about items of this nature
>>> (irc is a great tool for this) is something I would like to see happen
>>> more often.
>>>> You may have seen that "Arista Testing" has come alive and is voting on the
>>>> newly submitted neutron patches. I have been busy putting together the
>>>> framework, and learning the Jenkins/Gerrit interface.
>>> Yes. Can you respond on the "Remove voting until your testing structure
>>> works" thread please? This enables people who wish to respond to you on
>>> this point a place to conduct the conversation. It also preserves a
>>> history of the topic so that those searching the archives have all the
>>> relevant information in one place.
>>>> Now, I have shifted
>>>> my focus on Neutron/networking tempest tests. I notice some of these tests
>>>> are failing on my setup. I have started to dig into these with the intent
>>>> to understand them.
>>> That is a great place to begin. Thank you for taking interest and
>>> pursuing test bugs.
>>>> In terms of this upcoming sprint, if you folks can give some pointers that
>>>> will help me get better prepared and productive, that will be appreciated.
>>> We need folks attending the sprint who are familiar with offering
>>> patches to tempest. Seeing your name in this list would be a great
>>> indicator that you are at least able to offer a patch. [3]
>>> If you are able to focus this week on getting up to speed on Tempest and
>>> the Neutron Tempest process, then your attendance at the conference may
>>> possibly be effective both for yourself and for the rest of the
>>> participants.
>>> This wiki page is probably a good place to begin. [4]
>>> The etherpad tracking the Neutron Tempest team's progress is here. [5]
>>> Familiarizing yourself with the status of the conversation during the
>>> meetings will help as well, though it isn't as important in terms of
>>> being useful at the sprint as offering a tempest patch. Neutron meeting
>>> logs can be found here. [6]
>>> Also being available in channel will go a long way to fostering the kind
>>> of interactions which are constructive now and in the future. I don't
>>> see you in channel much, it would be great to see you more.
>>>> Looking forward to meeting and working with you.
>>> And I you. Let's consider this an opportunity for greater participation
>>> with Neutron and having more conversations in irc is a great way to begin.
>>> Though I am not available in -neutron this week others are, so please
>>> announce when you are ready to work and hopefully someone will be
>>> keeping an eye out for you and offer you a hand.
>>>> regards..
>>>> -Sukhdev
>>> Thanks Sukhdev,
>>> Anita.
>>> [0]
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/022918.html
>>> [1]
>>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-16-21.02.log.html
>>> timestamp 21:57:46
>>> [2]
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/023228.html
>>> [3]
>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z
>>> [4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/TempestAPITests
>>> [5] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-qa-neutron
>>> [6] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/
>>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/18/2013 04:17 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>> Okay time for a recap.
>>>>>> What: Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>>>>> Where: Montreal, QC, Canada
>>>>>> When: January 15, 16, 17 2014
>>>>>> Location: I am about to sign the contract for Salle du Parc at 3625 Parc
>>>>>> avenue, a room in a residence of McGill University.
>>>>>> Time: 9am - 5am
>>>>> Time: 9am - 5pm
>>>>>> I am expecting to see the following people in Montreal in January:
>>>>>> Mark McClain
>>>>>> Salvatore Orlando
>>>>>> Sean Dague
>>>>>> Matt Trenish
>>>>>> Jay Pipes
>>>>>> Sukhdev Kapur
>>>>>> Miguel Lavelle
>>>>>> Oleg Bondarev
>>>>>> Rossella Sblendido
>>>>>> Emilien Macchi
>>>>>> Sylvain Afchain
>>>>>> Nicolas Planel
>>>>>> Kyle Mestery
>>>>>> Dane Leblanc
>>>>>> Sumit Naiksatam
>>>>>> Henry Gessau
>>>>>> Don Kehn
>>>>>> Carl Baldwin
>>>>>> Justin Hammond
>>>>>> Anita Kuno
>>>>>> If you are on the above list and can't attend, please email me so I have
>>>>>> an up-to-date list. If you are planning on attending and I don't have
>>>>>> your name listed, please email me without delay so that I can add you
>>>>>> and you get done what you need to get done to attend.
>>>>>> I have the contract for the room and will be signing it and sending it
>>>>>> in with the room deposit tomorrow. Monty has about 6 more hours to get
>>>>>> back to me on this, then I just have to go ahead and do it.
>>>>>> Caterer is booked and I will be doing menu selection over the holidays.
>>>>>> I can post the intended, _the intended_ menu once I have decided. Soup,
>>>>>> salad, sandwich - not glamourous but hopefully filling. If the menu on
>>>>>> the day isn't the same as what I post, please forgive me. Unforeseen
>>>>>> circumstances may crop up and I will do my best to get you fed. One
>>>>>> person has identified they have a specific food request, if there are
>>>>>> any more out there, please email me now. This covers breakfast, lunch
>>>>>> and tea/coffee all day.
>>>>> Menu:
>>>>> Breakfast: 8am - 10am
>>>>> Fruit, Yogurt, Baked Items: ie. Muffins, Scones, Juice, Coffee, Tea
>>>>> Lunch: Noon - 2pm
>>>>> Sandwiches:
>>>>> Roast Beef with Stone Ground Mustard,
>>>>> Smoked Turkey Breast with Cranberry Sauce,
>>>>> Chicken Salad with Apples and Celery,
>>>>> Flavoured Tortilla with Spinach and Sun-dried Tomatoes,
>>>>> Smoked Meat,
>>>>> Egg Salad,
>>>>> Tuna with fresh Dill,
>>>>> Black Forest Ham with aged Cheddar
>>>>> on a variety of breads
>>>>> Soup:
>>>>> Wednesday: Potato and Leek Cream Soup
>>>>> Thursday: Sweet Potato and Red Pepper Bisque
>>>>> Friday: Wild Rice and Smoked Turkey Soup
>>>>> Salad:
>>>>> Green Garden Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette
>>>>> and
>>>>> Wednesday: Greek Salad
>>>>> Thursday: Tortellini Pesto Salad
>>>>> Friday: Potato Aglio e Olio Salad
>>>>> Tea and Coffee all day
>>>>> This is to convey a sense of what to expect, items may change with no
>>>>> notice.
>>>>>> Henry Gessau will be social convener for dinners. If you have some
>>>>>> restaurant suggestions, please contact Henry. Organization of dinners
>>>>>> will take place once we congregate in our meeting room.
>>>>>> T-shirts: we decided that the code quality of Neutron was a higher
>>>>>> priority than t-shirts.
>>>>>> One person required a letter of invitation for visa purposes and
>>>>>> received it. I hope the visa has been granted.
>>>>>> Individuals arrangements for hotels seem to be going well from what I
>>>>>> have been hearing. A few people will be staying at Le Nouvel Hotel,
>>>>>> thanks for finding that one, Rosella.
>>>>>> Weather: well you got me on this one. This winter is colder than we have
>>>>>> had in some time and more snow too. So it will be beautiful but bring or
>>>>>> buy warm clothes. A few suggestions:
>>>>>> * layer your clothes (t-shirt, turtleneck, sweatshirt)
>>>>>> * boots with removable liners (this is my boot of choice:
>>>>>> http://amzn.to/19ddJve) remove the liners at the end of each day to dry
>>>>> them
>>>>>> * warm coat
>>>>>> * toque (wool unless you are allergic) I'm seeing them for $35, don't
>>>>>> pay that much, you should be able to get something warm for $15 or less
>>>>>> * warm socks (cotton socks and wool over top)- keep your feet dry
>>>>>> * mitts (mitts keep my fingers warmer than gloves)
>>>>>> * scarf
>>>>>> If the weather is making you panic, talk to me and I will see about
>>>>>> bringing some of my extra accessories with me. The style might not be
>>>>>> you but you will be warm.
>>>>> We are experiencing waves of warm and cold. The best I can offer is keep
>>>>> your eye on the forecast:
>>>>> http://www.theweathernetwork.com/14-day-weather-trend/canada/quebec/montreal
>>>>> when you pack, which is what I will be doing.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Anita.
>>>>>> Remember, don't lick the flagpole. It doesn't matter what your friends
>>>>>> tell you.
>>>>>> That's all I can think of, if I missed something, email me.
>>>>>> Oh, and best to consider me offline from Jan.2 until the code sprint.
>>>>>> Make sure you have all the information you need prior to that time.
>>>>>> See you in Montreal,
>>>>>> Anita.
>>>>>> On 11/19/2013 11:31 AM, Rossella Sblendido wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> sorry if this is a bit OT now.
>>>>>>> I contacted some hotels to see if we could get a special price if we
>>>>> book
>>>>>>> many rooms. According to my research the difference in price is not
>>>>> much.
>>>>>>> Also, as Anita was saying, booking for everybody is more complicated.
>>>>>>> So I decided to booked a room for myself.
>>>>>>> I share the name of the hotel, in case you want to stay in the same
>>>>> place
>>>>>>> http://www.lenouvelhotel.com/<
>>>>> http://www.booking.com/hotel/ca/le-nouvel-spa.html?aid=318615&label=postbooking_confemail&pbsource=conf_email_hotel_name&et=UmFuZG9tSVYkc2RlIyh9YQkLIKuQhwqabGHP/3dl6rJzqy0AqLilEWRB9q2h3N7LbLpnopp78jpk3Zrw8QEON8/7uGk2Z4XEVgx0jMidsc7G6J6/mpIjb0/tpL+TyUzh/SougdT7JVfQN96wrY/Uz9Cu068o86et5KaL1N1ikBA2yvj25PBlFEF+/iBPj8Nq
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> It's close to the meeting room and the price is one of the best I have
>>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Rossella
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>  On 11/16/2013 01:14 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2013 12:37 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2013 10:36 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
>>>>>>>>  On 11/13/2013 11:10 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>>>>  Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>>>>>>> In the second week of January in Montreal, Quebec, Canadathere will be
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> Neutron Tempest code sprint to improve the status of Neutron tests in
>>>>>>>> Tempest and to add new tests.
>>>>>>>>  First off, I think anything regarding putting more effort into this is
>>>>>>>> great.  However, I *beg* the Neutron team not to wait until this week
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> make significant progress.
>>>>>>>> To be clear, IMO, this is already painfully late.  It's one of the
>>>>>>>> largest items blocking deprecation of nova-network and moving forward
>>>>>>>> with Neutron.  This spring is just a couple weeks before icehouse-2.
>>>>>>>> Come i2, mid-cycle, we're going to have make a call on whether or not
>>>>>>>> nova-network deprecation seems likely.  If not, we really can't wait
>>>>>>>> around and I will probably propose un-freezing nova-network.
>>>>>>>>  100% agreed. Realistically this has to be a capping session, not when
>>>>>>>> the real work starts. If the agent rewrite isn't done, and the parallel
>>>>>>>> gate basically working before then, it won't work.
>>>>>>>> Honestly, I think we're going to need to checkpoint before Christmas to
>>>>>>>> figure out if the preconditions are met, because if they aren't, then
>>>>>>>> it's not clear the 3 days of code sprint are really going to generate
>>>>>>>> the results we need.
>>>>>>>> I'm encouraged by the level of activity in the neutron channel, so I
>>>>>>>> think right now planning for success is good. But again, we need some
>>>>>>>> aggressive check points, and people need to realize this is not the
>>>>>>>> beginning of this work, it is the closing session.
>>>>>>>>     -Sean
>>>>>>>>  Great. What kind of check points in a mutual location would we like to
>>>>>>>> see?
>>>>>>>> Etherpad?
>>>>>>>> Meeting logs?
>>>>>>>> Other suggestions?
>>>>>>>> Thanks Sean,
>>>>>>>> Anita.
>>>>>>>> Actually I am going to answer my own question with a proposal.
>>>>>>>> I would like to see a special sub-committee of the TC convened
>>>>> comprised
>>>>>>>> of (5?) TC members and/or appointees for the express purpose of being
>>>>>>>> available to help meet this goal, be available in the -neutron irc
>>>>> channel
>>>>>>>> for questions and support and also to guide the process so the goal is
>>>>>>>> achieved.
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> Anita.
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