[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

Anita Kuno anteaya at anteaya.info
Tue Jan 7 23:28:07 UTC 2014

On 01/08/2014 03:10 AM, Nachi Ueno wrote:
> Hi Anita
> Let's me join this session also.
> Nachi Ueno
> NTT i3
Wonderful Nachi. We have spoken on irc to ensure you have your questions

It will be great to have another neutron-core at the code sprint.

Thank you,
> 2014/1/5 Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>:
>> On 01/05/2014 03:42 AM, Sukhdev Kapur wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> I finally got over my fear of weather and booked my flight and hotel for
>>> this sprint.
>>> I am relatively new to OpenStack community with a strong desire to learn
>>> and contribute.
>> Having a strong desire to participate effectively is great.
>> The difficulty for us is that we have already indicated that we need
>> experienced participants at the code sprint. [0]
>> Having long periods of silence and then simply announcing you have
>> booked your flights makes things difficult since we have been in
>> conversation with others about this for some time. I'm not saying don't
>> come, I am saying that this now puts myself and Mark in a position of
>> having to explain ourselves to others regarding consistency.
>> Mark and I will address this, though I will need to discuss this with
>> Mark to hear his thoughts and I am unable right now since I am at a
>> conference all week. [1]
>> Going forward, having regular conversations about items of this nature
>> (irc is a great tool for this) is something I would like to see happen
>> more often.
>>> You may have seen that "Arista Testing" has come alive and is voting on the
>>> newly submitted neutron patches. I have been busy putting together the
>>> framework, and learning the Jenkins/Gerrit interface.
>> Yes. Can you respond on the "Remove voting until your testing structure
>> works" thread please? This enables people who wish to respond to you on
>> this point a place to conduct the conversation. It also preserves a
>> history of the topic so that those searching the archives have all the
>> relevant information in one place.
>>> Now, I have shifted
>>> my focus on Neutron/networking tempest tests. I notice some of these tests
>>> are failing on my setup. I have started to dig into these with the intent
>>> to understand them.
>> That is a great place to begin. Thank you for taking interest and
>> pursuing test bugs.
>>> In terms of this upcoming sprint, if you folks can give some pointers that
>>> will help me get better prepared and productive, that will be appreciated.
>> We need folks attending the sprint who are familiar with offering
>> patches to tempest. Seeing your name in this list would be a great
>> indicator that you are at least able to offer a patch. [3]
>> If you are able to focus this week on getting up to speed on Tempest and
>> the Neutron Tempest process, then your attendance at the conference may
>> possibly be effective both for yourself and for the rest of the
>> participants.
>> This wiki page is probably a good place to begin. [4]
>> The etherpad tracking the Neutron Tempest team's progress is here. [5]
>> Familiarizing yourself with the status of the conversation during the
>> meetings will help as well, though it isn't as important in terms of
>> being useful at the sprint as offering a tempest patch. Neutron meeting
>> logs can be found here. [6]
>> Also being available in channel will go a long way to fostering the kind
>> of interactions which are constructive now and in the future. I don't
>> see you in channel much, it would be great to see you more.
>>> Looking forward to meeting and working with you.
>> And I you. Let's consider this an opportunity for greater participation
>> with Neutron and having more conversations in irc is a great way to begin.
>> Though I am not available in -neutron this week others are, so please
>> announce when you are ready to work and hopefully someone will be
>> keeping an eye out for you and offer you a hand.
>>> regards..
>>> -Sukhdev
>> Thanks Sukhdev,
>> Anita.
>> [0]
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/022918.html
>> [1]
>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-16-21.02.log.html
>> timestamp 21:57:46
>> [2]
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/023228.html
>> [3]
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z
>> [4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/TempestAPITests
>> [5] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-qa-neutron
>> [6] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/
>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:
>>>> On 12/18/2013 04:17 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>> Okay time for a recap.
>>>>> What: Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>>>> Where: Montreal, QC, Canada
>>>>> When: January 15, 16, 17 2014
>>>>> Location: I am about to sign the contract for Salle du Parc at 3625 Parc
>>>>> avenue, a room in a residence of McGill University.
>>>>> Time: 9am - 5am
>>>> Time: 9am - 5pm
>>>>> I am expecting to see the following people in Montreal in January:
>>>>> Mark McClain
>>>>> Salvatore Orlando
>>>>> Sean Dague
>>>>> Matt Trenish
>>>>> Jay Pipes
>>>>> Sukhdev Kapur
>>>>> Miguel Lavelle
>>>>> Oleg Bondarev
>>>>> Rossella Sblendido
>>>>> Emilien Macchi
>>>>> Sylvain Afchain
>>>>> Nicolas Planel
>>>>> Kyle Mestery
>>>>> Dane Leblanc
>>>>> Sumit Naiksatam
>>>>> Henry Gessau
>>>>> Don Kehn
>>>>> Carl Baldwin
>>>>> Justin Hammond
>>>>> Anita Kuno
>>>>> If you are on the above list and can't attend, please email me so I have
>>>>> an up-to-date list. If you are planning on attending and I don't have
>>>>> your name listed, please email me without delay so that I can add you
>>>>> and you get done what you need to get done to attend.
>>>>> I have the contract for the room and will be signing it and sending it
>>>>> in with the room deposit tomorrow. Monty has about 6 more hours to get
>>>>> back to me on this, then I just have to go ahead and do it.
>>>>> Caterer is booked and I will be doing menu selection over the holidays.
>>>>> I can post the intended, _the intended_ menu once I have decided. Soup,
>>>>> salad, sandwich - not glamourous but hopefully filling. If the menu on
>>>>> the day isn't the same as what I post, please forgive me. Unforeseen
>>>>> circumstances may crop up and I will do my best to get you fed. One
>>>>> person has identified they have a specific food request, if there are
>>>>> any more out there, please email me now. This covers breakfast, lunch
>>>>> and tea/coffee all day.
>>>> Menu:
>>>> Breakfast: 8am - 10am
>>>> Fruit, Yogurt, Baked Items: ie. Muffins, Scones, Juice, Coffee, Tea
>>>> Lunch: Noon - 2pm
>>>> Sandwiches:
>>>> Roast Beef with Stone Ground Mustard,
>>>> Smoked Turkey Breast with Cranberry Sauce,
>>>> Chicken Salad with Apples and Celery,
>>>> Flavoured Tortilla with Spinach and Sun-dried Tomatoes,
>>>> Smoked Meat,
>>>> Egg Salad,
>>>> Tuna with fresh Dill,
>>>> Black Forest Ham with aged Cheddar
>>>> on a variety of breads
>>>> Soup:
>>>> Wednesday: Potato and Leek Cream Soup
>>>> Thursday: Sweet Potato and Red Pepper Bisque
>>>> Friday: Wild Rice and Smoked Turkey Soup
>>>> Salad:
>>>> Green Garden Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette
>>>> and
>>>> Wednesday: Greek Salad
>>>> Thursday: Tortellini Pesto Salad
>>>> Friday: Potato Aglio e Olio Salad
>>>> Tea and Coffee all day
>>>> This is to convey a sense of what to expect, items may change with no
>>>> notice.
>>>>> Henry Gessau will be social convener for dinners. If you have some
>>>>> restaurant suggestions, please contact Henry. Organization of dinners
>>>>> will take place once we congregate in our meeting room.
>>>>> T-shirts: we decided that the code quality of Neutron was a higher
>>>>> priority than t-shirts.
>>>>> One person required a letter of invitation for visa purposes and
>>>>> received it. I hope the visa has been granted.
>>>>> Individuals arrangements for hotels seem to be going well from what I
>>>>> have been hearing. A few people will be staying at Le Nouvel Hotel,
>>>>> thanks for finding that one, Rosella.
>>>>> Weather: well you got me on this one. This winter is colder than we have
>>>>> had in some time and more snow too. So it will be beautiful but bring or
>>>>> buy warm clothes. A few suggestions:
>>>>> * layer your clothes (t-shirt, turtleneck, sweatshirt)
>>>>> * boots with removable liners (this is my boot of choice:
>>>>> http://amzn.to/19ddJve) remove the liners at the end of each day to dry
>>>> them
>>>>> * warm coat
>>>>> * toque (wool unless you are allergic) I'm seeing them for $35, don't
>>>>> pay that much, you should be able to get something warm for $15 or less
>>>>> * warm socks (cotton socks and wool over top)- keep your feet dry
>>>>> * mitts (mitts keep my fingers warmer than gloves)
>>>>> * scarf
>>>>> If the weather is making you panic, talk to me and I will see about
>>>>> bringing some of my extra accessories with me. The style might not be
>>>>> you but you will be warm.
>>>> We are experiencing waves of warm and cold. The best I can offer is keep
>>>> your eye on the forecast:
>>>> http://www.theweathernetwork.com/14-day-weather-trend/canada/quebec/montreal
>>>> when you pack, which is what I will be doing.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Anita.
>>>>> Remember, don't lick the flagpole. It doesn't matter what your friends
>>>>> tell you.
>>>>> That's all I can think of, if I missed something, email me.
>>>>> Oh, and best to consider me offline from Jan.2 until the code sprint.
>>>>> Make sure you have all the information you need prior to that time.
>>>>> See you in Montreal,
>>>>> Anita.
>>>>> On 11/19/2013 11:31 AM, Rossella Sblendido wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> sorry if this is a bit OT now.
>>>>>> I contacted some hotels to see if we could get a special price if we
>>>> book
>>>>>> many rooms. According to my research the difference in price is not
>>>> much.
>>>>>> Also, as Anita was saying, booking for everybody is more complicated.
>>>>>> So I decided to booked a room for myself.
>>>>>> I share the name of the hotel, in case you want to stay in the same
>>>> place
>>>>>> http://www.lenouvelhotel.com/<
>>>> http://www.booking.com/hotel/ca/le-nouvel-spa.html?aid=318615&label=postbooking_confemail&pbsource=conf_email_hotel_name&et=UmFuZG9tSVYkc2RlIyh9YQkLIKuQhwqabGHP/3dl6rJzqy0AqLilEWRB9q2h3N7LbLpnopp78jpk3Zrw8QEON8/7uGk2Z4XEVgx0jMidsc7G6J6/mpIjb0/tpL+TyUzh/SougdT7JVfQN96wrY/Uz9Cu068o86et5KaL1N1ikBA2yvj25PBlFEF+/iBPj8Nq
>>>>> .
>>>>>> It's close to the meeting room and the price is one of the best I have
>>>>>> found.
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Rossella
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  On 11/16/2013 01:14 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2013 12:37 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/15/2013 10:36 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
>>>>>>>  On 11/13/2013 11:10 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>>>  Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>>>>>> In the second week of January in Montreal, Quebec, Canadathere will be
>>>> a
>>>>>>> Neutron Tempest code sprint to improve the status of Neutron tests in
>>>>>>> Tempest and to add new tests.
>>>>>>>  First off, I think anything regarding putting more effort into this is
>>>>>>> great.  However, I *beg* the Neutron team not to wait until this week
>>>> to
>>>>>>> make significant progress.
>>>>>>> To be clear, IMO, this is already painfully late.  It's one of the
>>>>>>> largest items blocking deprecation of nova-network and moving forward
>>>>>>> with Neutron.  This spring is just a couple weeks before icehouse-2.
>>>>>>> Come i2, mid-cycle, we're going to have make a call on whether or not
>>>>>>> nova-network deprecation seems likely.  If not, we really can't wait
>>>>>>> around and I will probably propose un-freezing nova-network.
>>>>>>>  100% agreed. Realistically this has to be a capping session, not when
>>>>>>> the real work starts. If the agent rewrite isn't done, and the parallel
>>>>>>> gate basically working before then, it won't work.
>>>>>>> Honestly, I think we're going to need to checkpoint before Christmas to
>>>>>>> figure out if the preconditions are met, because if they aren't, then
>>>>>>> it's not clear the 3 days of code sprint are really going to generate
>>>>>>> the results we need.
>>>>>>> I'm encouraged by the level of activity in the neutron channel, so I
>>>>>>> think right now planning for success is good. But again, we need some
>>>>>>> aggressive check points, and people need to realize this is not the
>>>>>>> beginning of this work, it is the closing session.
>>>>>>>     -Sean
>>>>>>>  Great. What kind of check points in a mutual location would we like to
>>>>>>> see?
>>>>>>> Etherpad?
>>>>>>> Meeting logs?
>>>>>>> Other suggestions?
>>>>>>> Thanks Sean,
>>>>>>> Anita.
>>>>>>> Actually I am going to answer my own question with a proposal.
>>>>>>> I would like to see a special sub-committee of the TC convened
>>>> comprised
>>>>>>> of (5?) TC members and/or appointees for the express purpose of being
>>>>>>> available to help meet this goal, be available in the -neutron irc
>>>> channel
>>>>>>> for questions and support and also to guide the process so the goal is
>>>>>>> achieved.
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>> Anita.
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