[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

Anita Kuno anteaya at anteaya.info
Sun Jan 5 22:18:38 UTC 2014

On 01/05/2014 03:42 AM, Sukhdev Kapur wrote:
> Folks,
> I finally got over my fear of weather and booked my flight and hotel for
> this sprint.
> I am relatively new to OpenStack community with a strong desire to learn
> and contribute.
Having a strong desire to participate effectively is great.

The difficulty for us is that we have already indicated that we need
experienced participants at the code sprint. [0]

Having long periods of silence and then simply announcing you have
booked your flights makes things difficult since we have been in
conversation with others about this for some time. I'm not saying don't
come, I am saying that this now puts myself and Mark in a position of
having to explain ourselves to others regarding consistency.

Mark and I will address this, though I will need to discuss this with
Mark to hear his thoughts and I am unable right now since I am at a
conference all week. [1]

Going forward, having regular conversations about items of this nature
(irc is a great tool for this) is something I would like to see happen
more often.
> You may have seen that "Arista Testing" has come alive and is voting on the
> newly submitted neutron patches. I have been busy putting together the
> framework, and learning the Jenkins/Gerrit interface.
Yes. Can you respond on the "Remove voting until your testing structure
works" thread please? This enables people who wish to respond to you on
this point a place to conduct the conversation. It also preserves a
history of the topic so that those searching the archives have all the
relevant information in one place.

> Now, I have shifted
> my focus on Neutron/networking tempest tests. I notice some of these tests
> are failing on my setup. I have started to dig into these with the intent
> to understand them.
That is a great place to begin. Thank you for taking interest and
pursuing test bugs.

> In terms of this upcoming sprint, if you folks can give some pointers that
> will help me get better prepared and productive, that will be appreciated.
We need folks attending the sprint who are familiar with offering
patches to tempest. Seeing your name in this list would be a great
indicator that you are at least able to offer a patch. [3]

If you are able to focus this week on getting up to speed on Tempest and
the Neutron Tempest process, then your attendance at the conference may
possibly be effective both for yourself and for the rest of the

This wiki page is probably a good place to begin. [4]

The etherpad tracking the Neutron Tempest team's progress is here. [5]

Familiarizing yourself with the status of the conversation during the
meetings will help as well, though it isn't as important in terms of
being useful at the sprint as offering a tempest patch. Neutron meeting
logs can be found here. [6]

Also being available in channel will go a long way to fostering the kind
of interactions which are constructive now and in the future. I don't
see you in channel much, it would be great to see you more.
> Looking forward to meeting and working with you.
And I you. Let's consider this an opportunity for greater participation
with Neutron and having more conversations in irc is a great way to begin.

Though I am not available in -neutron this week others are, so please
announce when you are ready to work and hopefully someone will be
keeping an eye out for you and offer you a hand.
> regards..
> -Sukhdev

Thanks Sukhdev,

timestamp 21:57:46
[4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/TempestAPITests
[5] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-qa-neutron
[6] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/

> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:
>> On 12/18/2013 04:17 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>> Okay time for a recap.
>>> What: Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>> Where: Montreal, QC, Canada
>>> When: January 15, 16, 17 2014
>>> Location: I am about to sign the contract for Salle du Parc at 3625 Parc
>>> avenue, a room in a residence of McGill University.
>>> Time: 9am - 5am
>> Time: 9am - 5pm
>>> I am expecting to see the following people in Montreal in January:
>>> Mark McClain
>>> Salvatore Orlando
>>> Sean Dague
>>> Matt Trenish
>>> Jay Pipes
>>> Sukhdev Kapur
>>> Miguel Lavelle
>>> Oleg Bondarev
>>> Rossella Sblendido
>>> Emilien Macchi
>>> Sylvain Afchain
>>> Nicolas Planel
>>> Kyle Mestery
>>> Dane Leblanc
>>> Sumit Naiksatam
>>> Henry Gessau
>>> Don Kehn
>>> Carl Baldwin
>>> Justin Hammond
>>> Anita Kuno
>>> If you are on the above list and can't attend, please email me so I have
>>> an up-to-date list. If you are planning on attending and I don't have
>>> your name listed, please email me without delay so that I can add you
>>> and you get done what you need to get done to attend.
>>> I have the contract for the room and will be signing it and sending it
>>> in with the room deposit tomorrow. Monty has about 6 more hours to get
>>> back to me on this, then I just have to go ahead and do it.
>>> Caterer is booked and I will be doing menu selection over the holidays.
>>> I can post the intended, _the intended_ menu once I have decided. Soup,
>>> salad, sandwich - not glamourous but hopefully filling. If the menu on
>>> the day isn't the same as what I post, please forgive me. Unforeseen
>>> circumstances may crop up and I will do my best to get you fed. One
>>> person has identified they have a specific food request, if there are
>>> any more out there, please email me now. This covers breakfast, lunch
>>> and tea/coffee all day.
>> Menu:
>> Breakfast: 8am - 10am
>> Fruit, Yogurt, Baked Items: ie. Muffins, Scones, Juice, Coffee, Tea
>> Lunch: Noon - 2pm
>> Sandwiches:
>> Roast Beef with Stone Ground Mustard,
>> Smoked Turkey Breast with Cranberry Sauce,
>> Chicken Salad with Apples and Celery,
>> Flavoured Tortilla with Spinach and Sun-dried Tomatoes,
>> Smoked Meat,
>> Egg Salad,
>> Tuna with fresh Dill,
>> Black Forest Ham with aged Cheddar
>> on a variety of breads
>> Soup:
>> Wednesday: Potato and Leek Cream Soup
>> Thursday: Sweet Potato and Red Pepper Bisque
>> Friday: Wild Rice and Smoked Turkey Soup
>> Salad:
>> Green Garden Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette
>> and
>> Wednesday: Greek Salad
>> Thursday: Tortellini Pesto Salad
>> Friday: Potato Aglio e Olio Salad
>> Tea and Coffee all day
>> This is to convey a sense of what to expect, items may change with no
>> notice.
>>> Henry Gessau will be social convener for dinners. If you have some
>>> restaurant suggestions, please contact Henry. Organization of dinners
>>> will take place once we congregate in our meeting room.
>>> T-shirts: we decided that the code quality of Neutron was a higher
>>> priority than t-shirts.
>>> One person required a letter of invitation for visa purposes and
>>> received it. I hope the visa has been granted.
>>> Individuals arrangements for hotels seem to be going well from what I
>>> have been hearing. A few people will be staying at Le Nouvel Hotel,
>>> thanks for finding that one, Rosella.
>>> Weather: well you got me on this one. This winter is colder than we have
>>> had in some time and more snow too. So it will be beautiful but bring or
>>> buy warm clothes. A few suggestions:
>>> * layer your clothes (t-shirt, turtleneck, sweatshirt)
>>> * boots with removable liners (this is my boot of choice:
>>> http://amzn.to/19ddJve) remove the liners at the end of each day to dry
>> them
>>> * warm coat
>>> * toque (wool unless you are allergic) I'm seeing them for $35, don't
>>> pay that much, you should be able to get something warm for $15 or less
>>> * warm socks (cotton socks and wool over top)- keep your feet dry
>>> * mitts (mitts keep my fingers warmer than gloves)
>>> * scarf
>>> If the weather is making you panic, talk to me and I will see about
>>> bringing some of my extra accessories with me. The style might not be
>>> you but you will be warm.
>> We are experiencing waves of warm and cold. The best I can offer is keep
>> your eye on the forecast:
>> http://www.theweathernetwork.com/14-day-weather-trend/canada/quebec/montreal
>> when you pack, which is what I will be doing.
>> Thanks,
>> Anita.
>>> Remember, don't lick the flagpole. It doesn't matter what your friends
>>> tell you.
>>> That's all I can think of, if I missed something, email me.
>>> Oh, and best to consider me offline from Jan.2 until the code sprint.
>>> Make sure you have all the information you need prior to that time.
>>> See you in Montreal,
>>> Anita.
>>> On 11/19/2013 11:31 AM, Rossella Sblendido wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> sorry if this is a bit OT now.
>>>> I contacted some hotels to see if we could get a special price if we
>> book
>>>> many rooms. According to my research the difference in price is not
>> much.
>>>> Also, as Anita was saying, booking for everybody is more complicated.
>>>> So I decided to booked a room for myself.
>>>> I share the name of the hotel, in case you want to stay in the same
>> place
>>>> http://www.lenouvelhotel.com/<
>> http://www.booking.com/hotel/ca/le-nouvel-spa.html?aid=318615&label=postbooking_confemail&pbsource=conf_email_hotel_name&et=UmFuZG9tSVYkc2RlIyh9YQkLIKuQhwqabGHP/3dl6rJzqy0AqLilEWRB9q2h3N7LbLpnopp78jpk3Zrw8QEON8/7uGk2Z4XEVgx0jMidsc7G6J6/mpIjb0/tpL+TyUzh/SougdT7JVfQN96wrY/Uz9Cu068o86et5KaL1N1ikBA2yvj25PBlFEF+/iBPj8Nq
>>> .
>>>> It's close to the meeting room and the price is one of the best I have
>>>> found.
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Rossella
>>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>
>> wrote:
>>>>>  On 11/16/2013 01:14 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2013 12:37 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
>>>>> On 11/15/2013 10:36 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
>>>>>  On 11/13/2013 11:10 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>  Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>>>> In the second week of January in Montreal, Quebec, Canadathere will be
>> a
>>>>> Neutron Tempest code sprint to improve the status of Neutron tests in
>>>>> Tempest and to add new tests.
>>>>>  First off, I think anything regarding putting more effort into this is
>>>>> great.  However, I *beg* the Neutron team not to wait until this week
>> to
>>>>> make significant progress.
>>>>> To be clear, IMO, this is already painfully late.  It's one of the
>>>>> largest items blocking deprecation of nova-network and moving forward
>>>>> with Neutron.  This spring is just a couple weeks before icehouse-2.
>>>>> Come i2, mid-cycle, we're going to have make a call on whether or not
>>>>> nova-network deprecation seems likely.  If not, we really can't wait
>>>>> around and I will probably propose un-freezing nova-network.
>>>>>  100% agreed. Realistically this has to be a capping session, not when
>>>>> the real work starts. If the agent rewrite isn't done, and the parallel
>>>>> gate basically working before then, it won't work.
>>>>> Honestly, I think we're going to need to checkpoint before Christmas to
>>>>> figure out if the preconditions are met, because if they aren't, then
>>>>> it's not clear the 3 days of code sprint are really going to generate
>>>>> the results we need.
>>>>> I'm encouraged by the level of activity in the neutron channel, so I
>>>>> think right now planning for success is good. But again, we need some
>>>>> aggressive check points, and people need to realize this is not the
>>>>> beginning of this work, it is the closing session.
>>>>>     -Sean
>>>>>  Great. What kind of check points in a mutual location would we like to
>>>>> see?
>>>>> Etherpad?
>>>>> Meeting logs?
>>>>> Other suggestions?
>>>>> Thanks Sean,
>>>>> Anita.
>>>>> Actually I am going to answer my own question with a proposal.
>>>>> I would like to see a special sub-committee of the TC convened
>> comprised
>>>>> of (5?) TC members and/or appointees for the express purpose of being
>>>>> available to help meet this goal, be available in the -neutron irc
>> channel
>>>>> for questions and support and also to guide the process so the goal is
>>>>> achieved.
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> Anita.
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