[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

Nachi Ueno nachi at ntti3.com
Tue Jan 7 19:10:01 UTC 2014

Hi Anita

Let's me join this session also.

Nachi Ueno
NTT i3

2014/1/5 Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>:
> On 01/05/2014 03:42 AM, Sukhdev Kapur wrote:
>> Folks,
>> I finally got over my fear of weather and booked my flight and hotel for
>> this sprint.
>> I am relatively new to OpenStack community with a strong desire to learn
>> and contribute.
> Having a strong desire to participate effectively is great.
> The difficulty for us is that we have already indicated that we need
> experienced participants at the code sprint. [0]
> Having long periods of silence and then simply announcing you have
> booked your flights makes things difficult since we have been in
> conversation with others about this for some time. I'm not saying don't
> come, I am saying that this now puts myself and Mark in a position of
> having to explain ourselves to others regarding consistency.
> Mark and I will address this, though I will need to discuss this with
> Mark to hear his thoughts and I am unable right now since I am at a
> conference all week. [1]
> Going forward, having regular conversations about items of this nature
> (irc is a great tool for this) is something I would like to see happen
> more often.
>> You may have seen that "Arista Testing" has come alive and is voting on the
>> newly submitted neutron patches. I have been busy putting together the
>> framework, and learning the Jenkins/Gerrit interface.
> Yes. Can you respond on the "Remove voting until your testing structure
> works" thread please? This enables people who wish to respond to you on
> this point a place to conduct the conversation. It also preserves a
> history of the topic so that those searching the archives have all the
> relevant information in one place.
>> Now, I have shifted
>> my focus on Neutron/networking tempest tests. I notice some of these tests
>> are failing on my setup. I have started to dig into these with the intent
>> to understand them.
> That is a great place to begin. Thank you for taking interest and
> pursuing test bugs.
>> In terms of this upcoming sprint, if you folks can give some pointers that
>> will help me get better prepared and productive, that will be appreciated.
> We need folks attending the sprint who are familiar with offering
> patches to tempest. Seeing your name in this list would be a great
> indicator that you are at least able to offer a patch. [3]
> If you are able to focus this week on getting up to speed on Tempest and
> the Neutron Tempest process, then your attendance at the conference may
> possibly be effective both for yourself and for the rest of the
> participants.
> This wiki page is probably a good place to begin. [4]
> The etherpad tracking the Neutron Tempest team's progress is here. [5]
> Familiarizing yourself with the status of the conversation during the
> meetings will help as well, though it isn't as important in terms of
> being useful at the sprint as offering a tempest patch. Neutron meeting
> logs can be found here. [6]
> Also being available in channel will go a long way to fostering the kind
> of interactions which are constructive now and in the future. I don't
> see you in channel much, it would be great to see you more.
>> Looking forward to meeting and working with you.
> And I you. Let's consider this an opportunity for greater participation
> with Neutron and having more conversations in irc is a great way to begin.
> Though I am not available in -neutron this week others are, so please
> announce when you are ready to work and hopefully someone will be
> keeping an eye out for you and offer you a hand.
>> regards..
>> -Sukhdev
> Thanks Sukhdev,
> Anita.
> [0]
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/022918.html
> [1]
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-16-21.02.log.html
> timestamp 21:57:46
> [2]
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/023228.html
> [3]
> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z
> [4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/TempestAPITests
> [5] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-qa-neutron
> [6] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:
>>> On 12/18/2013 04:17 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>> Okay time for a recap.
>>>> What: Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>>> Where: Montreal, QC, Canada
>>>> When: January 15, 16, 17 2014
>>>> Location: I am about to sign the contract for Salle du Parc at 3625 Parc
>>>> avenue, a room in a residence of McGill University.
>>>> Time: 9am - 5am
>>> Time: 9am - 5pm
>>>> I am expecting to see the following people in Montreal in January:
>>>> Mark McClain
>>>> Salvatore Orlando
>>>> Sean Dague
>>>> Matt Trenish
>>>> Jay Pipes
>>>> Sukhdev Kapur
>>>> Miguel Lavelle
>>>> Oleg Bondarev
>>>> Rossella Sblendido
>>>> Emilien Macchi
>>>> Sylvain Afchain
>>>> Nicolas Planel
>>>> Kyle Mestery
>>>> Dane Leblanc
>>>> Sumit Naiksatam
>>>> Henry Gessau
>>>> Don Kehn
>>>> Carl Baldwin
>>>> Justin Hammond
>>>> Anita Kuno
>>>> If you are on the above list and can't attend, please email me so I have
>>>> an up-to-date list. If you are planning on attending and I don't have
>>>> your name listed, please email me without delay so that I can add you
>>>> and you get done what you need to get done to attend.
>>>> I have the contract for the room and will be signing it and sending it
>>>> in with the room deposit tomorrow. Monty has about 6 more hours to get
>>>> back to me on this, then I just have to go ahead and do it.
>>>> Caterer is booked and I will be doing menu selection over the holidays.
>>>> I can post the intended, _the intended_ menu once I have decided. Soup,
>>>> salad, sandwich - not glamourous but hopefully filling. If the menu on
>>>> the day isn't the same as what I post, please forgive me. Unforeseen
>>>> circumstances may crop up and I will do my best to get you fed. One
>>>> person has identified they have a specific food request, if there are
>>>> any more out there, please email me now. This covers breakfast, lunch
>>>> and tea/coffee all day.
>>> Menu:
>>> Breakfast: 8am - 10am
>>> Fruit, Yogurt, Baked Items: ie. Muffins, Scones, Juice, Coffee, Tea
>>> Lunch: Noon - 2pm
>>> Sandwiches:
>>> Roast Beef with Stone Ground Mustard,
>>> Smoked Turkey Breast with Cranberry Sauce,
>>> Chicken Salad with Apples and Celery,
>>> Flavoured Tortilla with Spinach and Sun-dried Tomatoes,
>>> Smoked Meat,
>>> Egg Salad,
>>> Tuna with fresh Dill,
>>> Black Forest Ham with aged Cheddar
>>> on a variety of breads
>>> Soup:
>>> Wednesday: Potato and Leek Cream Soup
>>> Thursday: Sweet Potato and Red Pepper Bisque
>>> Friday: Wild Rice and Smoked Turkey Soup
>>> Salad:
>>> Green Garden Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette
>>> and
>>> Wednesday: Greek Salad
>>> Thursday: Tortellini Pesto Salad
>>> Friday: Potato Aglio e Olio Salad
>>> Tea and Coffee all day
>>> This is to convey a sense of what to expect, items may change with no
>>> notice.
>>>> Henry Gessau will be social convener for dinners. If you have some
>>>> restaurant suggestions, please contact Henry. Organization of dinners
>>>> will take place once we congregate in our meeting room.
>>>> T-shirts: we decided that the code quality of Neutron was a higher
>>>> priority than t-shirts.
>>>> One person required a letter of invitation for visa purposes and
>>>> received it. I hope the visa has been granted.
>>>> Individuals arrangements for hotels seem to be going well from what I
>>>> have been hearing. A few people will be staying at Le Nouvel Hotel,
>>>> thanks for finding that one, Rosella.
>>>> Weather: well you got me on this one. This winter is colder than we have
>>>> had in some time and more snow too. So it will be beautiful but bring or
>>>> buy warm clothes. A few suggestions:
>>>> * layer your clothes (t-shirt, turtleneck, sweatshirt)
>>>> * boots with removable liners (this is my boot of choice:
>>>> http://amzn.to/19ddJve) remove the liners at the end of each day to dry
>>> them
>>>> * warm coat
>>>> * toque (wool unless you are allergic) I'm seeing them for $35, don't
>>>> pay that much, you should be able to get something warm for $15 or less
>>>> * warm socks (cotton socks and wool over top)- keep your feet dry
>>>> * mitts (mitts keep my fingers warmer than gloves)
>>>> * scarf
>>>> If the weather is making you panic, talk to me and I will see about
>>>> bringing some of my extra accessories with me. The style might not be
>>>> you but you will be warm.
>>> We are experiencing waves of warm and cold. The best I can offer is keep
>>> your eye on the forecast:
>>> http://www.theweathernetwork.com/14-day-weather-trend/canada/quebec/montreal
>>> when you pack, which is what I will be doing.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anita.
>>>> Remember, don't lick the flagpole. It doesn't matter what your friends
>>>> tell you.
>>>> That's all I can think of, if I missed something, email me.
>>>> Oh, and best to consider me offline from Jan.2 until the code sprint.
>>>> Make sure you have all the information you need prior to that time.
>>>> See you in Montreal,
>>>> Anita.
>>>> On 11/19/2013 11:31 AM, Rossella Sblendido wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> sorry if this is a bit OT now.
>>>>> I contacted some hotels to see if we could get a special price if we
>>> book
>>>>> many rooms. According to my research the difference in price is not
>>> much.
>>>>> Also, as Anita was saying, booking for everybody is more complicated.
>>>>> So I decided to booked a room for myself.
>>>>> I share the name of the hotel, in case you want to stay in the same
>>> place
>>>>> http://www.lenouvelhotel.com/<
>>> http://www.booking.com/hotel/ca/le-nouvel-spa.html?aid=318615&label=postbooking_confemail&pbsource=conf_email_hotel_name&et=UmFuZG9tSVYkc2RlIyh9YQkLIKuQhwqabGHP/3dl6rJzqy0AqLilEWRB9q2h3N7LbLpnopp78jpk3Zrw8QEON8/7uGk2Z4XEVgx0jMidsc7G6J6/mpIjb0/tpL+TyUzh/SougdT7JVfQN96wrY/Uz9Cu068o86et5KaL1N1ikBA2yvj25PBlFEF+/iBPj8Nq
>>>> .
>>>>> It's close to the meeting room and the price is one of the best I have
>>>>> found.
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Rossella
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>  On 11/16/2013 01:14 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2013 12:37 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/15/2013 10:36 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
>>>>>>  On 11/13/2013 11:10 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>>>>  Neutron Tempest code sprint
>>>>>> In the second week of January in Montreal, Quebec, Canadathere will be
>>> a
>>>>>> Neutron Tempest code sprint to improve the status of Neutron tests in
>>>>>> Tempest and to add new tests.
>>>>>>  First off, I think anything regarding putting more effort into this is
>>>>>> great.  However, I *beg* the Neutron team not to wait until this week
>>> to
>>>>>> make significant progress.
>>>>>> To be clear, IMO, this is already painfully late.  It's one of the
>>>>>> largest items blocking deprecation of nova-network and moving forward
>>>>>> with Neutron.  This spring is just a couple weeks before icehouse-2.
>>>>>> Come i2, mid-cycle, we're going to have make a call on whether or not
>>>>>> nova-network deprecation seems likely.  If not, we really can't wait
>>>>>> around and I will probably propose un-freezing nova-network.
>>>>>>  100% agreed. Realistically this has to be a capping session, not when
>>>>>> the real work starts. If the agent rewrite isn't done, and the parallel
>>>>>> gate basically working before then, it won't work.
>>>>>> Honestly, I think we're going to need to checkpoint before Christmas to
>>>>>> figure out if the preconditions are met, because if they aren't, then
>>>>>> it's not clear the 3 days of code sprint are really going to generate
>>>>>> the results we need.
>>>>>> I'm encouraged by the level of activity in the neutron channel, so I
>>>>>> think right now planning for success is good. But again, we need some
>>>>>> aggressive check points, and people need to realize this is not the
>>>>>> beginning of this work, it is the closing session.
>>>>>>     -Sean
>>>>>>  Great. What kind of check points in a mutual location would we like to
>>>>>> see?
>>>>>> Etherpad?
>>>>>> Meeting logs?
>>>>>> Other suggestions?
>>>>>> Thanks Sean,
>>>>>> Anita.
>>>>>> Actually I am going to answer my own question with a proposal.
>>>>>> I would like to see a special sub-committee of the TC convened
>>> comprised
>>>>>> of (5?) TC members and/or appointees for the express purpose of being
>>>>>> available to help meet this goal, be available in the -neutron irc
>>> channel
>>>>>> for questions and support and also to guide the process so the goal is
>>>>>> achieved.
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> Anita.
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