[openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

Flavio Percoco flavio at redhat.com
Tue Dec 17 14:27:45 UTC 2013

On 17/12/13 14:59 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>Mark McLoughlin wrote:
>> On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 13:44 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>>> Mark McLoughlin wrote:
>>>> How about if we had an "emerging projects" page where the TC feedback on
>>>> each project would be listed?
>>>> That would give visibility to our feedback, without making it a yes/no
>>>> blessing. Ok, whether to list any feedback about the project on the page
>>>> is a yes/no decision, but at least it allows us to fully express why we
>>>> find the project promising, what people need to help with in order for
>>>> it to be incubated, etc.
>>>> With a formal yes/no status, I think we'd struggle with projects which
>>>> we're not quite ready to even bless with an "emerging" status but we
>>>> still want to encourage them - this allows us to bless a project as
>>>> "emerging" but be explicit about our level of support for it.
>>> I agree that being able to express our opinion on a project in shades of
>>> grey is valuable... The main drawback of using a non-boolean status for
>>> that is that you can't grant any benefit to it. So we'd not be able to
>>> say "emerging projects get design summit space".
>>> They can still collaborate in unconference space or around empty tables,
>>> but then we are back to the problem we are trying to solve: increase
>>> visibility of promising projects pre-incubation.
>> Have an emerging projects track and leave it up to the track coordinator
>> to decide prioritize the most interesting sessions and the most advanced
>> projects (according to the TC's feedback)  ?
>I guess that /could/ work. I don't expect we'll have space for more than
>one session per project, but that may be enough for self-organization if
>we nail the "collaboration spaces" correctly.
>I'm fine with giving that page a try (we can always revisit if it's not
>working any better...).

I'm not sure about the page as a medium for this but I like the idea.
This is pretty much a way to incubate programs, which is basically
what I proposed in my previous emails. Lets not consider Programs
official right away, lets give them a place where they can grow a bit
with the projects the have under their umbrella. Lets also - as Mark
suggested - use that place to add comments and help them grow.

And I'm also in favor of having a emerging projects track. +1


Flavio Percoco
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