[User-committee] [Product] Gerrit repo

Sun, Yih Leong yih.leong.sun at intel.com
Wed Mar 1 20:55:53 UTC 2017 

If anybody from Public Cloud WG is attending Milan Ops midcycle (Mar 15th-16th), we can meet F2F for discussion on the Product WG workflow, gap-analysis, tracker, templates.

The PWG is also having F2F Midcycle meeting at Milan (Mar 13th-14th).
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-pwg-meetup



From: Tobias Rydberg [mailto:tobias at citynetwork.se]
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:48 PM
To: Edgar Magana <edgar.magana at workday.com>; Sun, Yih Leong <yih.leong.sun at intel.com>; Kunzmann, Gerald <kunzmann at docomolab-euro.com>; Zhipeng Huang <zhipengh512 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [User-committee] [Product] Gerrit repo


I think this looks like a good idea that will work for our stories. We brought this to discussion during todays group meeting, and we will have another review round at the template to see if it could fit us, if not, get back with feedback why to see if we can find a solution to that.

Tobias

On 2017-03-01 19:27, Edgar Magana wrote:
That is correct. That is actually part of the best practices for development in the open. Do not come with the final version but building it by pieces with total openness.

Edgar

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Date: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [User-committee] [Product] Gerrit repo

+1
Prefix WIP on the commit message. And set workflow as "-1".
For example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409878/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__review.openstack.org_-23_c_409878_&d=DwMGaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=zcscB71bvTU_WjE2uI75DlJZBIE7h4Z2LCKboe5G0j0&s=-UTHb9EYMmqVNj6Q5mOAMJlz3b9HlBKRaOP8STQSG-A&e=>


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Subject: RE: [User-committee] [Product] Gerrit repo

Hi Tobias,

One option could be marking the user story as [WIP] (or any other tag we agree) as long as you are internally working on it? As soon as you remove the tag, this would indicate to wider user committee community to start the broader review.

Best regards,
Gerald

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Subject: Re: [User-committee] [Product] Gerrit repo

HI Gerald and all,

The reason why we in public cloud wg are thinking about setting up our own repo is that for public cloud specific use cases, we could first review it within our group from pure public cloud perspective. and then if the use cases are potentially widely adaptive, then we will output the use cases to openstack-user-story for a broader review.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Kunzmann, Gerald <kunzmann at docomolab-euro.com<mailto:kunzmann at docomolab-euro.com>> wrote:
Hi Tobias,

I also would be interested to see how/why the template does not fit and check whether we could align, e.g. by adding some optional section into user story template.

Unfortunately, Wednesday 14:00 UTC is also not possible for me.

Best regards,
Gerald

From: Sun, Yih Leong [mailto:yih.leong.sun at intel.com<mailto:yih.leong.sun at intel.com>]
Sent: Dienstag, 28. Februar 2017 23:26
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Subject: Re: [User-committee] [Product] Gerrit repo

If it is just a template issue and I think that can be easily work with.

It will be great if you could let me know why the template does not fit your use case?
We at Product WG are always looks for improvement. :)

Unfortunately 1400 UTC is not a good time for me.

From: Tobias Rydberg [mailto:tobias at citynetwork.se]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [User-committee] [User-Committee] Gerrit repo


Thanks for your replies!

We did discuss that, the reason that we wanted to go with our own was basically that the template does not look exactly the same as is, and in that case more clear to have them separated. Also to be able to have other documents there that are produced by the publiccloud-wg.
I can agree about the use cases/stories, would be awesome to have them in the same place. Does it matter if our use cases/user stories are not following the same template? We are currently in the process of specifying the template. Will bring this question to the team at tomorrows meeting. You are all welcome at 1400 UTC #openstack-meeting-3 to join the discussion. =)

Regards,
Tobias
On 2017-02-28 22:15, Yih Leong, Sun. wrote:
I would agree with Ken and recommend to submit that as a user story to Product WG repo.

On Tuesday, February 28, 2017, Melvin Hillsman <mrhillsman at gmail.com<mailto:mrhillsman at gmail.com>> wrote:
+1
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On Feb 28, 2017, at 14:11, Edgar Magana <edgar.magana at workday.com<mailto:edgar.magana at workday.com>> wrote:
Excellent point Kenny!

Tobias,

Any concerns using the current repo?

Edgar

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Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [User-committee] [User-Committee] Gerrit repo


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Edgar Magana <edgar.magana at workday.com<mailto:edgar.magana at workday.com>> wrote:
Hello,

Go a head and make the request to infra to have a new repo. For instance:
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427819/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__review.openstack.org_-23_c_427819_&d=DwMFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=ecd2laeilied37Ii26V2vNyX35FmgVrRfQvoPYrxL4Y&s=OsJTI_Kpjs4NQ29MKDA7YxlgI9InH8Nroge6CchIiF8&e=>

Add UC members for approval.

Thanks,

Edgar

On 2/28/17, 1:07 AM, "Tobias Rydberg" <tobias at citynetwork.se<mailto:tobias at citynetwork.se>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    We in the publiccloud-wg are looking into the possibility to get our own
    Gerrit repo? The reason for this repo would first of all be to host our
    use cases that we will create and documentation around that, and to have
    a formal creation process for these use cases. We have looked at how
    Product WG have been working with their Users Stories and believe it
    would be wise to try to have something similar.

I'd recommend against doing this. The "User Stories" repository[2] is not exclusive to PWG members, but should be considered a place to define and merge user stories for all UC groups/teams.

[2] https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_openstack_openstack-2Duser-2Dstories&d=DwMFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=ecd2laeilied37Ii26V2vNyX35FmgVrRfQvoPYrxL4Y&s=CxPGKXc-Ruo-UAMh9IXcibh4rpDhCkXxkEh1nhRJ0N0&e=>

    We are here to motivate this further and listen to feedback!

    Kind regards,

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