[User-committee] Discrimination and the Code of Conduct

Matt Jarvis matt.jarvis at datacentred.co.uk
Fri May 6 21:59:30 UTC 2016


that's sad to hear Doug, 2 is definitely 2 too many. What do you think the
drivers are for that kind of behaviour - are there cultural elements
involved or is it just purely inappropriate behaviour in your experience ?

On 6 May 2016 at 22:51, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:

> Excerpts from Matt Jarvis's message of 2016-05-06 22:24:55 +0100:
> > I have to say that I've never seen any of that kind of behaviour in my
> time
> > in the community, which is not to say it might not be happening
> elsewhere.
> > As we become a global community though, with all our brilliant cultural
> > differences as human beings, it is probably a good idea to set the
> > acceptable parameters in terms of how we interact with each other.
>
> I'm personally aware of at least 2 episodes of harassment against women
> at our summit events. So, yes, this is a problem in our community.
>
> Thanks, Michael, for picking up the work to finish the CoC updates.
>
> Doug
>
> >
> > On 6 May 2016 at 22:02, Jonathan Proulx <jon at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > Good points.  We should probably reach out to the Diversity Working
> > > Group for their input https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diversity
> > >
> > > I'm not particularly familiar with other organization's codes of
> > > conduct or more importantly how they have worked in practice.
> > >
> > > Do you have any suggestions for models to emulate (or avoid)?
> > >
> > > -Jon
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 08:47:20PM +0000, Michael Krotscheck wrote:
> > > :Hello everyone-
> > > :
> > > :OpenStack's Code of Conduct does not have an explicit discrimination
> > > :clause, nor does it have any mention of what constitutes harassment.
> > > :
> > > :https://www.openstack.org/legal/community-code-of-conduct/
> > > :
> > > :There've been quite a few flashpoints recently, where individuals
> acting
> > > :inside of other open source communities have engaged in allegedly
> racist,
> > > :sexist, and other discriminatory behavior, to the detriment and loss
> of
> > > :their peer contributors. I personally feel that it is only a matter of
> > > time
> > > :before something similar happens inside of our community (if it hasn't
> > > :already), and I strongly believe we should decide how we, as a
> community,
> > > :should react should something like this happen, before it actually
> does.
> > > :
> > > :I've spoken to a member of the Board of Directors, and their
> > > recommendation
> > > :was that the user committee take on this task, and make a
> recommendation
> > > to
> > > :the Board and the Foundation.
> > > :
> > > :My personal opinion is that a zero-tolerance policy may not be
> effective,
> > > :as it provides little opportunity for correction, education, and
> > > :redemption. Even so, a policy that does not have teeth will be little
> more
> > > :than lip service.
> > > :
> > > :Michael Krotscheck
> > >
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