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So I have a couple of hats to wear in this discussion.


As a User Committee Member: 

There is not yet any defined communications standards.  Going forward
in the scope of the Recognition Working Group
(https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NonATCRecognition) measurable
participation in Team and Working Group activities is one of the
metrics being looked at.  For Operator recognition in Austin this was
done by scraping IRC logs.

So there's some assumptions around IRC but not current policies.

My main considerations in this space a a UC memeber are:

1) Does the communication method work for the people who want to be
involved

2) Is it transparent to the rest of the community
   2.1) easy to join
   2.2) logged

Anything that meets the second point would probably also be sufficient
to the recognition issue.


As a Cloud Operator/Architect/Crotchety_Old_$EXPLETIVE in an accademic
research context(ie me):

I really like text (irc, xmpp). I've not used Slack but from here it
look like it is primarily used like a proprietary hosted XMPP service.
Which intern is a lot like a private IRC system but with automated
logging that provides better history and searchibilty from the client
than IRC. At CSAIL we run ejabberd for interal team comms for this
reason. Based on my experience it's a pretty trivial service to
operate, and I'd rather see the foundation operating it's own FOSS
service than buying into some opaque proprietary external service.

I really dislike conference calls and worse video conferences
(hangouts, webex, etc...) and to the extent possible avoid those and
things that use them.  Aside from my personal and slightly irrational
hatred of these interactions, I do think there's some practical reason
to prefer text:

* Audio communication is much more difficult than written
  communication when participants are less fluent in the meeting
  language.
* Audio/video is larger to archive and more difficult (nearly
  impossible) to search
* If you do manage to store them in a searhcable way formats are less
  standard (and thus more liekly to bit rot into unusibility) than text

These aren't insurmountable problems.  I know the Spoken Languages
people a couple floors above me have some neat tools in this space
(indexing and transcribing lectures)

On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 05:48:37AM +1000, Blair Bethwaite wrote:
:Hi all,
:
:Following on from the inaugural scientific-wg, Stig and I as co-chairs
:need to organise a regular meeting schedule going forward. Anita
:provided some useful advice/pointers here - thanks!
:
:I understand the infra team has various useful processes setup around
:IRC meetings, however I (and others) are concerned that IRC will be a
:barrier to entry for some folks wishing to participate in this forum -
:our own community cloud has experienced this, with Slack very quickly
:and popularly replacing IRC (note I'm not particularly advocating
:Slack itself here, there are a number of options).
:
:Before we consider this further ourselves I'm wondering if this has
:already been discussed or is being considered by the core
:user-committee? I imagine this is something that will need to be
:addressed soon as the user-committee births new (not-as-technical)
:community working groups.
:
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:Cheers,
:~Blairo
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