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Just a quick FYI, the Python community have massively "upped their game" by
making proactive statements for how to be *inclusive* aka anti-patterns in
diversity.

https://youtu.be/Xg1LgSg3pmo

Also worth noting is how Psychologists help people on the
autism/aspergers/ahdh/etc spectrum by giving them default "checklists" for
what neuro-typical responses should occur prior to addressing their
personal primary logical concern:

http://www.autism.org.uk/socialskills

^^easy to forget sometimes ;-)

Kind Regards,

Flanders



On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> I made a few updates to the modified version in the etherpad:
>
> - Added back in the “respect the election process” bullet, because it’s
> important that we be explicit about elections in the CoC
> - Added the reporting guidelines, based very closely on the process we
> developed for the Summit (with help from the Ada Initiative and based on
> the Python conference CoC a few years ago)
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/CoC
>
> We have 10 minutes on the agenda at the June 28th board meeting to
> discuss, which means we should ideally get proposed updates in front of the
> board to preview as soon as possible.
>
> I think this version is ready to socialize for community feedback on a
> broader mailing list. I know the Diversity Committee was interested in the
> project and primarily uses the Foundation mailing list, so that seems like
> the best forum for them to also weigh in.
>
> Would you like to take the lead or would you prefer I send it out?
>
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Sorry I missed your email last week while I was traveling. The next steps
> you mentioned sound good to me, and you should feel empowered to move
> forward. I'm out of the office tomorrow but can dig into the outstanding
> details around reporting protocol next week.
>
> Like you said, I think the next steps are to socialize the edits with the
> community (probably foundation and community mailing lists) and then
> present the updated version to the board for approval. I'm happy to help
> arrange the latter, and will reach out now to see if there's room in the
> june 28th meeting.
>
> Thanks for pushing on this. I agree it's important to get across the
> finish line!
>
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
> On June 16, 2016 5:19:51 PM Michael Krotscheck <krotscheck at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> I've reached out to Lauren and Cindy on this issue to offer my help but
>> haven't gotten a response. Given the tricky nature of gender
>> discrimination, I don't feel comfortable (as a white male) taking on this
>> work without their guidance, as it is likely to negatively impact its
>> legitimacy. I'm sensitive to that "Male Privilege swoop-in-and-take-over"
>> thing, so I'll leave it in the capable hands of Lauren and Cindy.
>>
>> I support this effort and what it means for the community but started
>> this discussion because it looked like this important work might be
>> stalling, but maybe it's just that I don't know where to look for the next
>> steps & how I can help. Could someone direct me to where I can follow
>> along in the discussions and maybe participate when I'm able to find the
>> time between my other projects? This is really important to the community
>> and I don't want to lose track of what's going on here.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Michael Krotscheck
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 3:00 PM Matt Jarvis <matt.jarvis at datacentred.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> that's sad to hear Doug, 2 is definitely 2 too many. What do you think
>>> the drivers are for that kind of behaviour - are there cultural elements
>>> involved or is it just purely inappropriate behaviour in your experience ?
>>>
>>> On 6 May 2016 at 22:51, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excerpts from Matt Jarvis's message of 2016-05-06 22:24:55 +0100:
>>>> > I have to say that I've never seen any of that kind of behaviour in
>>>> my time
>>>> > in the community, which is not to say it might not be happening
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>> > As we become a global community though, with all our brilliant
>>>> cultural
>>>> > differences as human beings, it is probably a good idea to set the
>>>> > acceptable parameters in terms of how we interact with each other.
>>>>
>>>> I'm personally aware of at least 2 episodes of harassment against women
>>>> at our summit events. So, yes, this is a problem in our community.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Michael, for picking up the work to finish the CoC updates.
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 6 May 2016 at 22:02, Jonathan Proulx <jon at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi Michael,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Good points.  We should probably reach out to the Diversity Working
>>>> > > Group for their input https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diversity
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'm not particularly familiar with other organization's codes of
>>>> > > conduct or more importantly how they have worked in practice.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Do you have any suggestions for models to emulate (or avoid)?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -Jon
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 08:47:20PM +0000, Michael Krotscheck wrote:
>>>> > > :Hello everyone-
>>>> > > :
>>>> > > :OpenStack's Code of Conduct does not have an explicit
>>>> discrimination
>>>> > > :clause, nor does it have any mention of what constitutes
>>>> harassment.
>>>> > > :
>>>> > > :https://www.openstack.org/legal/community-code-of-conduct/
>>>> > > :
>>>> > > :There've been quite a few flashpoints recently, where individuals
>>>> acting
>>>> > > :inside of other open source communities have engaged in allegedly
>>>> racist,
>>>> > > :sexist, and other discriminatory behavior, to the detriment and
>>>> loss of
>>>> > > :their peer contributors. I personally feel that it is only a
>>>> matter of
>>>> > > time
>>>> > > :before something similar happens inside of our community (if it
>>>> hasn't
>>>> > > :already), and I strongly believe we should decide how we, as a
>>>> community,
>>>> > > :should react should something like this happen, before it actually
>>>> does.
>>>> > > :
>>>> > > :I've spoken to a member of the Board of Directors, and their
>>>> > > recommendation
>>>> > > :was that the user committee take on this task, and make a
>>>> recommendation
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > :the Board and the Foundation.
>>>> > > :
>>>> > > :My personal opinion is that a zero-tolerance policy may not be
>>>> effective,
>>>> > > :as it provides little opportunity for correction, education, and
>>>> > > :redemption. Even so, a policy that does not have teeth will be
>>>> little more
>>>> > > :than lip service.
>>>> > > :
>>>> > > :Michael Krotscheck
>>>> > >
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