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IMHO it's useful for prioritizing potential plug ins / toolkits for "cloud
app" developers based on their preferred tools.

An example from the AWS world would be: http://aws.amazon.com/eclipse/





On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Sean Dague <sean at dague.net> wrote:

> Out of curiosity, why is the development environment question an
> interesting one? Is there some decision or action that an OpenStack
> program or project would make based on that info?
>
> It is really easy to ask lots of questions, however, every additional
> question causes a drop of in percentage responders. So every question
> should have a clear reason for being asked other than general interest.
>
> And on a lighter note... how did vim make the list but not emacs? ;)
>
>         -Sean
>
> On 02/05/2014 02:50 AM, Martin, JC wrote:
> > For the development environment, more precisely, it may be PyCharm
> instead of intelliJ. or to cover both : jetbrain IDEA.
> >
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Everett Toews <everett.toews at RACKSPACE.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Some more potential questions.
> >>
> >> 1. What development environment do you use?
> >> [ ] Eclipse
> >> [ ] Intellij IDEA
> >> [ ] Visual Studio
> >> [ ] Sublime
> >> [ ] vim
> >> Other
> >>
> >> 2. What tools are you using to deploy/configure your application?
> >> [ ] Ansible
> >> [ ] Chef
> >> [ ] Puppet
> >> [ ] SaltStack
> >> Other
> >>
> >> 3. What do you struggle with when developing and deploying applications
> on OpenStack?
> >> Free form answers.
> >>
> >> I'll try to aggregate all of the Q&A into one list this week.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Everett
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Everett Toews <
> everett.toews at rackspace.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 01/21/2014 02:25 AM, Everett Toews wrote:
> >>>>> There are a number of issues that stand out to me but before getting
> >>>>> into them some quick definitions to be clear what I'm talking about.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OpenStack developer = developer working on OpenStack itself
> >>>>> OpenStack operator = operator deploying/maintaining an OpenStack
> cloud
> >>>>> application developer = developer working on application being
> deployed
> >>>>> on an OpenStack cloud
> >>>>> application operator = operator deploying/maintaining an application
> on
> >>>>> an OpenStack cloud
> >>>>> users = any of OpenStack operator, application developer, application
> >>>>> operator
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be really useful, I think, to match these up with some of the
> >>>> personas we have, so that we are all talking about the same thing
> >>>> (there's a big difference between someone deploying a small private
> >>>> cloud and someone operating a large public cloud, for example).
> >>>
> >>> I attended your session on personas at the HK Summit. I was the guy
> ranting about SDKs from the back. ;)
> >>>
> >>> The personas are definitely useful and I think we could use them to
> help inform the definitions of the above. Here's what I'm starting to
> envision for the survey.
> >>>
> >>> On the About You page [1] we update the What best describes your
> involvement with OpenStack? section as follows
> >>>
> >>> [ ] OpenStack cloud service provider - provides public or hosted
> private cloud services for other organizations
> >>> [ ] Ecosystem vendor - provides software or solutions that enable
> others to build or run OpenStack clouds
> >>> [ ] Private cloud operator - runs an OpenStack private cloud for their
> own organization
> >>> [ ] Application developer - has API or dashboard credentials and
> deploys/maintains an application running on an OpenStack cloud
> >>> [ ] Application operator - has API or dashboard credentials and
> develops an application running on an OpenStack cloud
> >>>
> >>> If the survey taker checks Application developer or Application
> operator then they are shown a survey page with the questions we are
> formulating here instead of/in addition to the About Your OpenStack
> Deployments page.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think we want to have the role definitions above too long but
> anything can help.
> >>>
> >>> Can you link us to the personas work and how they might map to the
> roles as above?
> >>>
> >>> [sidebar]
> >>> It seems the About You page already makes the distinction between
> someone deploying a small private cloud and someone operating a large
> public cloud. However, I think the line between "...or hosted private cloud
> services for other organizations" and "runs an OpenStack private cloud for
> their own organization" is pretty thin. "hosted private cloud services for
> other organizations" sounds like a small-scale public cloud to me. The real
> distinction being whether you're doing it for your org or for others. The
> questions on the About Your OpenStack Deployments page make the distinction
> between scale.
> >>>
> >>> They could be reworded as
> >>>
> >>> [ ] OpenStack operator for a public cloud - provides public or hosted
> private cloud services for other organizations
> >>> [ ] OpenStack operator for a private cloud - runs an OpenStack private
> cloud for their own organization
> >>>
> >>> This is apart from the app dev oriented discussion and hence the
> sidebar.
> >>> [/sidebar]
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Everett
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://www.openstack.org/user-survey/OrgInfo
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