[User-committee] OpenStack End User Working Group

Rainya Mosher rainya.mosher at RACKSPACE.COM
Fri Aug 22 22:28:22 UTC 2014


Oh that’s right! Thanks for the reminder, Anne. :D

Rainya Mosher
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From: Anne Gentle <anne at openstack.org<mailto:anne at openstack.org>>
Date: Friday, August 22, 2014 at 5:27 PM
To: Rainya Mosher <rainya.mosher at rackspace.com<mailto:rainya.mosher at rackspace.com>>
Cc: Ruben Orduz <ruben.orduz at RACKSPACE.COM<mailto:ruben.orduz at RACKSPACE.COM>>, "user-committee at lists.openstack.org<mailto:user-committee at lists.openstack.org>" <user-committee at lists.openstack.org<mailto:user-committee at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [User-committee] OpenStack End User Working Group

No sads Rainya, you have superuser.openstack.org<http://superuser.openstack.org> and an existing User Committee that has already done a ton of work around that particular OpenStack persona. :)

It's the next layer that the end-user effort is working on, and to me this next frontier exploration explains why definitions are crucial for focusing efforts.

Anne


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Rainya Mosher <rainya.mosher at rackspace.com<mailto:rainya.mosher at rackspace.com>> wrote:

Sadness, but I understand. Thanks for the clarification!

Rainya Mosher
Dev Manager, PSST Release & Deploy
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On 8/22/14, 4:55 PM, "Ruben Orduz" <ruben.orduz at RACKSPACE.COM<mailto:ruben.orduz at RACKSPACE.COM>> wrote:

>Hi Rainya,
>
>For the sake of this definition, I’d say yes, your group would be
>considered operators and outside our target audience.
>
>Best,
>Ruben
>
>On Aug 22, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Rainya Mosher <rainya.mosher at RACKSPACE.COM<mailto:rainya.mosher at RACKSPACE.COM>>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I like that a definition is being created and thank you for not wanting
>>to
>> leave out the operators and deployers. As a deployer of an OpenStack
>> cloud, how does the definition "An OpenStack end user is anyone who
>> interacts with and makes use of an OpenStack cloud via its public APIs²
>> apply to the end users that deploy the OpenStack software itself? I ask
>> because when my team and I do a public cloud deploy, we don¹t actually
>> interact with the public api for any openstack service. It is all done
>> through orchestration and ssh at the instance and host level.
>>
>> Is the idea that we would fall into the operator / maintainer category?
>>Or
>> is this function out of scope for this conversation? Cheers!
>>
>>
>> Rainya Mosher
>> Dev Manager, PSST Release & Deploy
>> 210.316.5065<tel:210.316.5065> (mobile)
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Strategic € Activator € Connectedness € Individualization €
>>Communication
>>
>> I am an artist. This means I live in a perverse fantasy world with
>> unrealistic expectations. Thank you for understanding.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/22/14, 3:31 PM, "Ruben Orduz" <ruben.orduz at RACKSPACE.COM<mailto:ruben.orduz at RACKSPACE.COM>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like this definition quite a bit, but I¹d tweak it to just this:
>>>
>>> "An OpenStack end user is anyone who interacts with and makes use of an
>>> OpenStack cloud via its public APIs²
>>>
>>> My 2c
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ruben
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Everett Toews
>>><everett.toews at RACKSPACE.COM<mailto:everett.toews at RACKSPACE.COM>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's a straw man definition for end user to stimulate discussion.
>>>>The
>>>> public API is a good point of delineation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An OpenStack end user is anyone who interacts with an OpenStack cloud
>>>> via its public APIs. That is, anyone who develops, deploys, or
>>>>maintains
>>>> software that uses an OpenStack cloud via any technology that
>>>>interacts
>>>> with its public APIs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts here?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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