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Hi Chris,

Just pinging on this :)

Regards,

Tom

On 19/08/14 20:10, Tom Fifield wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Before we run off and start making mailing lists, I would like to define
> what "end user" is. It seems pretty nebulous right now, and we need to
> at least get it to the point where we can say that this is the correct
> name for the target group before we name a mailing list after it.
> 
> If I recall correctly, you had a definition in mind you were going to
> circulate?
> 
> Ideally, we'd also scope the working group too, but I'm OK with a more
> light weight approach so we do no delay the creation of a rallying point
> for the growing interest.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 16/08/14 03:54, Chris C. Kemp wrote:
>> Lauren –
>>
>>  
>>
>> I’ve received a lot of positive feedback on the meeting, and effort in
>> general.   I would like to suggest that we do go ahead and set up a
>> mailing list for this working group.  This gives us the flexibility to
>> CC the user-committee list for broader updates and coordinating with the
>> broader operator community, but have a separate forum to communicate
>> matters of interest to the end-user community.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I suggest we call this end-users at lists.openstack.org
>> <mailto:end-users at lists.openstack.org>, so that we don’t embed the
>> current “working group” nature of the community into the mailing list
>> name, which could change in the future.  I believe that there will
>> always be a concept of OpenStack “end-users”
>>
>>  
>>
>> I’ll follow up with you regarding the possibility of coordinating a
>> follow-on working session prior to the Design Summit where we can bring
>> this community together again to follow-up on some of the ideas
>> generated on the call.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I’m also working on collecting notes from the meeting to send out to
>> those that were unable to participate in the call, which we will CC to
>> the user-committee mailing list.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2014 11:55 AM
>> *To:* Chris C. Kemp
>> *Cc:* user-committee at lists.openstack.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [User-committee] OpenStack End User Working Group
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks again Chris for running the meeting, and thanks everyone for the
>> great input. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> I personally find this discussion very exciting because it means
>> OpenStack has been adopted to the point where we’re truly building a
>> community of end users, who need representation and guidance to have a
>> voice in the community.  We’ve been working down this path for operators
>> over the past year (with great progress, but still more work to be
>> done), and we have an even bigger opportunity with end users.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The meeting recording is now live, and also posted to the wiki page:
>>
>>   * Recording: http://bb6464121d88dd64b6ed-b08c43cca2e2f1994ff0cbedf9a194c5.r93.cf1.rackcdn.com/EndUserWG-Webinar01.mp3
>>   * End user
>>     wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/End_User_Working_Group (we can
>>     break out a separate meeting section if appropriate)
>>
>> From the meeting burner report, we had the following attendees:
>>
>>   * Evan Scheessele
>>   * Tom Fifield
>>   * Lauren Sell
>>   * Jeremy Stanley
>>   * Suhail Syed
>>   * Andrew Mitry
>>   * Ruben Orduz
>>   * Ed Leafe
>>   * Aminah Nailor
>>   * Constanze Kratel
>>   * Warren Volkmann
>>   * Chris Kemp
>>   * Dave Nielsen
>>   * Jonathan Bryce
>>   * Nikhil Manchanda
>>   * Dave Orth
>>
>> Should we go ahead and set up a mailing list for this working group (so
>> we can also archive any previous discussions)? 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hope everyone has (or is having) a nice weekend!
>>
>>  
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lauren
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Chris C. Kemp <chris.c.kemp at nebula.com
>> <mailto:chris.c.kemp at nebula.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     As more OpenStack-powered clouds become available, there are a
>>     growing number of "end users" of OpenStack clouds that have no
>>     direct visibility into the implementation of the OpenStack services
>>     that they are using.  These “end users” are often employees of
>>     organizations that have OpenStack clouds or application developers
>>     that are using public clouds powered by OpenStack.   Tim Bell and I
>>     have been discussing the best way to give a voice to this growing
>>     community of stakeholders within the broader OpenStack community,
>>     and have agreed to form a working group to work with the Foundation,
>>     User Committee, and OpenStack Board, to coordinate activities that
>>     give this small but growing community a larger voice within the
>>     overall OpenStack ecosystem. 
>>
>>      
>>
>>     We have set up a meetingburner event for Thursday at 5 pm PT
>>     at http://openstack.enterthemeeting.com/m/BY7MH7X4
>>
>>     <http://openstack.enterthemeeting.com/m/BY7MH7X4>
>>
>>     	
>>
>>     OpenStack Meeting
>>
>>     Following the July board meeting, we'll bring together parties
>>     interested in kicking off an end user working group under the
>>     OpenStack user committee. High level agenda: 1. Discuss “end user”
>>     vs “ app developer” 2. Discuss current activities Foundation is
>>     planning including app developer input session 3. Discuss how to
>>     communicate this and engage the larger community
>>
>>     Read more... <http://openstack.enterthemeeting.com/m/BY7MH7X4>
>>
>>
>>     ​Agenda:
>>
>>      1. Chris Kemp: Overview of working group, including how key
>>         stakeholders, including “OpenStack developers,” “OpenStack
>>         operators,” “OpenStack end users,” and “OpenStack app
>>         developers” relate to this working group, the User Committee,
>>         and the overall OpenStack community. 
>>      2. Lauren Sell: Discuss current activities Foundation is planning
>>         including app developer input session.
>>      3. Tom Ford: Discuss how to communicate this to the larger
>>         OpenStack community
>>      4. Community. Collect feedback, ideas and volunteers interested in
>>         helping out from the members of the User Committee.
>>
>>     Please sign up if you are interested in learning more about (or
>>     participating in!) this working group. ​ 
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Chris
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Co-founder, OpenStack, Nebula
>>
>>     chris at kemp.com <mailto:chris at kemp.com>
>>
>>      
>>
>>      
>>
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