Open Stack

It seems a pity to have duplicate efforts, especially when there are useful blueprints to help profile deployments like
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/opt-in-stats-tracking that could benefit from some community attention.

Tim

From: Joshua McKenty [mailto:joshua at pistoncloud.com] 
Sent: 08 July 2013 20:24
To: Stefano Maffulli
Cc: Yujie Du; Gordon, Joe; Boris Renski; marketing at lists.openstack.org; Qingye Jiang; user-committee at lists.openstack.org;
community at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [User-committee] [OpenStack Marketing] [openstack-community] qyjohn's quarterly report of the size and health of the 4
open source projects is out

I believe that the OpenStack marketing community sees comparisons to other open source cloud frameworks as significant competitive
positioning. Accuracy in that data would be valuable to the whole community.

I *know* that a number of OpenStack member companies use their "position" in terms of ATC contributions as a marketing point, and
having an accurate baseline for those numbers might also be valuable. For example, DreamHost has suddenly become the most
substantial contributor to Quantum *ever*. :)

http://www.stackalytics.com/engineers/markmcclain?metric=loc&period=havana&project_type=incubation

As for myself, I often use the count of individual members, corporate members, and total committers in sales and marketing materials
- and I've found a number of discrepancies in the user database that I find concerning (duplicate names, etc.). Solid, official data
is valuable for everyone - and I think inviting these other projects to join the activity board effort, by making it an openstack
project itself, could be a great way to get there. 

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On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org> wrote:


Hi Josh

On Mon 08 Jul 2013 07:42:20 PM CEST, Joshua McKenty wrote:

Stefano, it seems like we're getting a proliferation of "stats and
analysis" efforts, including Mirantis's newly
launched http://www.stackalytics.com/. Would you be up for
spearheading a new OpenStack "program" to coordinate these various
efforts?

Sure, I like to think that I'm already  half-way there with the 
Activity Board. Http://activity.openstack.org is the program I run now 
that wants to be the 'official' way to get useful stats and metrics. 
"Useful" in this context is data and metrics that are needed to manage 
the community and the development teams. We don't do comparisons with 
other projects and we are adding more and more features, sources and 
datapoints based on the feedback from project managers and users (see 
the first release of data from gerrit on the dash 
http://activity.openstack.org/dash/browser/scr.html).  We are working 
hard to make sure that the data is correct and meaningful for 
day-to-day consumption, not just for quarterly reports and flashy 
announcements.

There is also a topic for the openstack-dev mailing list with 
interesting discussions coming from PTLs and project managers 
(http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=subject%3A[metrics]+list%3Aorg.openstack.lists.openstack-dev 
to get an idea of what is discussed there).

I believe Mirantis started their effort before Activity Board was 
available and stackalytics was born out of their internal need to track 
lines of code (a metric that many in openstack-dev believe has less 
priority than other data points currently missing in Activity Board).
Qingjye similarly had his own itch to scratch when he started doing the 
comparison across different projects.

What problem you believe such multitude of reports not coming from the 
Foundation  is creating?

/stef

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