[Product] Proposal - Rename our Group to the User Story Team
Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com
Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com
Tue Dec 6 22:48:23 UTC 2016
Agree.
Name change is a hassle. Also there is a requirements group already. I see their emails on openstack email reflector.
Arkady
-----Original Message-----
From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 4:45 PM
To: Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org; user-committee at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Product] Proposal - Rename our Group to the User Story Team
+UC
I also agree that the Product WG/Team understood at this point. I also don't think the term WG necessarily means it is a short-lived WG, the UC identified WGs as task-oriented or long-term/marker-oriented and therefore the name could stay the same IMHO and not have implications on the implied longevity of the team. Look forward to the discussion at the next meeting!
> On Dec 6, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
>
> Lauren - I just read your comments and agree the charter is broader than User Stories.
>
> We'll see what ideas others have and then bring it into a team meeting to finalize direction.
> Thanks
> Carol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 2:17 PM
> To: Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> Cc: Kenny Johnston <kenny at kencjohnston.com>;
> product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Product] Proposal - Rename our Group to the User Story
> Team
>
> My email just crossed paths with yours, Carol :)
>
> I don’t think the term Product scares many people away and it’s a known entity at this point. If you think a name change is warranted, I like the broader terms you propose...
>
>
>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Kenny - Where did you find the definition of WG vs Team? I thought it was the other way around (teams = short term; WG = long term).
>>
>> I think there are pros & cons to changing names. One of the notables being name recognition.
>>
>> That said, I think this is a good discussion for us to have. If we are going to change from Product, then some of the things that come to mind are: Market Requirements or Planning.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Carol
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kenny Johnston [mailto:kenny at kencjohnston.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:57 AM
>> To: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: [Product] Proposal - Rename our Group to the User Story Team
>>
>> - There has been some recent discussion around what it means to be a
>> Working Group vs Team, with one of the guiding principles highlighted
>> being that Working Groups should be short-lived in nature, whereas
>> Teams can exist in perpetuity
>> - Given our role as the reviewers of the
>> openstack/openstack-user-stories repository[1], I believe we should
>> exist in perpetuity
>> - The term "Product" has implied a number of things that I think we
>> no longer intend:
>> - That our membership is made exclusively Product managers
>> - That it is our role to treat OpenStack like a "product"
>> - That we serve only those organizations who build products around
>> OpenStack
>>
>> For these reasons I'd like to propose that we change our name to the User Story team. I thought I would start the discussion here and ask that we add it as an agenda item for next week's meeting[2].
>>
>> Thoughts? High-fives? Boos?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Kenny Johnston | irc:kencjohnston | @kencjohnston [1]
>> https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories
>> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team
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