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I also agree that the Product WG/Team understood at this point.  I also don't think the term WG necessarily means it is a short-lived WG, the UC identified WGs as task-oriented or long-term/marker-oriented and therefore the name could stay the same IMHO and not have implications on the implied longevity of the team.  Look forward to the discussion at the next meeting!

> On Dec 6, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
> 
> Lauren - I just read your comments and agree the charter is broader than User Stories. 
> 
> We'll see what ideas others have and then bring it into a team meeting to finalize direction.
> Thanks
> Carol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 2:17 PM
> To: Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> Cc: Kenny Johnston <kenny at kencjohnston.com>; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Product] Proposal - Rename our Group to the User Story Team
> 
> My email just crossed paths with yours, Carol :)
> 
> I don’t think the term Product scares many people away and it’s a known entity at this point. If you think a name change is warranted, I like the broader terms you propose...
> 
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
>> 
>> HI Kenny - Where did you find the definition of WG vs Team? I thought it was the other way around (teams = short term; WG = long term).
>> 
>> I think there are pros & cons to changing names. One of the notables being name recognition.
>> 
>> That said, I think this is a good discussion for us to have. If we are going to change from Product, then some of the things that come to mind are: Market Requirements  or Planning.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> Carol
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kenny Johnston [mailto:kenny at kencjohnston.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:57 AM
>> To: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: [Product] Proposal - Rename our Group to the User Story Team
>> 
>>  - There has been some recent discussion around what it means to be a
>>  Working Group vs Team, with one of the guiding principles highlighted being
>>  that Working Groups should be short-lived in nature, whereas Teams can
>>  exist in perpetuity
>>  - Given our role as the reviewers of the
>>  openstack/openstack-user-stories repository[1], I believe we should exist
>>  in perpetuity
>>  - The term "Product" has implied a number of things that I think we no
>>  longer intend:
>>     - That our membership is made exclusively Product managers
>>     - That it is our role to treat OpenStack like a "product"
>>     - That we serve only those organizations who build products around
>>     OpenStack
>> 
>> For these reasons I'd like to propose that we change our name to the User Story team. I thought I would start the discussion here and ask that we add it as an agenda item for next week's meeting[2].
>> 
>> Thoughts? High-fives? Boos?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> --
>> Kenny Johnston | irc:kencjohnston | @kencjohnston [1] https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories
>> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team
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