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Shamail - Good point on recording the working session. We have an etherpad setup for it: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Product_Work_Group_Vancouver_Work_Session

We should ask someone to capture notes in the etherpad as we work on Monday afternoon. Not sure what else we can do.

Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 11:15 AM
To: Barrett, Carol L
Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org; Esker, Robert (Rob.Esker at netapp.com)
Subject: Re: [Product] FW: Final version of "Glimpse At Roadmap" Presentation

Hi Rob,

I'm sorry that the conflict will prevent you from joining the working sessions.  I think that the overall conversation around co-existence of design and user summits will need to be reconsidered at some point (way off-topic from the focus of this mailing list/thread) so I'll leave it at that.

I would highly encourage joining the bi-weekly meetings.  In reality, given the amount of work that has to get done... our face to face meeting will probably serve as an alignment on action items and possible approaches since it's not enough time for us to hash out details.  Most of the work will probably done over ML, bi-weekly meetings, and at our mid-cycle (speaking of which, we need to add an agenda item to discuss the location).  

Thanks in advance for sharing a passion for this topic and the strategic importance.  The relationship with Technical Committee, DefCore, User Committee, and the Cross-Project Team are all still being discussed.  Some of these teams might be stakeholders, consumers of the outcome, or involved in the actual workflow. 

I'll see if I can somehow record the F2F session and share a link on the ML for those who couldn't make it (no promises).

Thanks,
Shamail 




> On May 17, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
> 
> Rob - Thanks for your email, here are my thoughts:
> 1) We have 2 sessions in the Conference to provide updates, we also 
> have 2 working sessions. Additionally, people can join our meetings 
> (every other Wednesday). Info can be found on the Wiki
> 2) I think we have more work to do to put a working structure in process between the 3 groups, but we're on the right track.
> 3) I've got lots of concerns around Big Tent and Tags..
> 
> Carol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barrett, Carol L [mailto:carol.l.barrett at intel.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:46 AM
> To: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: [Product] FW: Final version of "Glimpse At Roadmap" 
> Presentation
> 
> Forwarded on Rob's behalf....
> 
> 
>> On 5/17/15, 10:36 AM, "Esker, Robert" wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I've been watching the working group's progress and wanted to pass along my plaudits for the progress to date. At the March boarding meeting in NYC (we're also touching upon this today), a number of us broke out to discuss product / program management of OpenStack across projects and release. I've a few questions / suggestions as a result I thought I'd pass along for discussion as we head into this week:
>> 
>> * Many of the folks who ought participate in this group across the breadth of the community are consumed with other obligations during the week of Summit. Among those I've bounced this off, the familiar refrain was that double & triple-booked schedules were the norm. It certainly makes sense to provide a community update during Summit week, but I'm wondering if there'd be common support to offset the working portion from the distraction of the conference. I realize this harkens to a long-running discussion about whether or not the Design Summit and Conference ought inhabit the same week, but short of anything changing there it would seem pragmatic to pend working sessions to perhaps 2-3 weeks after.
>> 
>> * The emergence of the product working group is very timely given the coincident changes around DefCore and within the TC around project lifecycle / structure. Do you feel that the relationship between the 3 is clear? Does the product working group have sufficient influence / mandate to affect a coherent cross release / cross project roadmap? Are there any actions you'd suggest the board take to clarify / define charter / et cetera?
>> 
>> * Given the changes around project lifecycle, do you have any concerns about the notion of incubation being deprecated? It's been my observation that there is a definite predestination paradox presented with trying to legitimize and proliferate nascent projects. Many deployers don't have interest in making use of something that isn't yet officially designated as ready and within the fold... yet a project can't "graduate" until it demonstrates a critical mass of deployer adoption. The prior notion of incubation helped to bridge this gap a bit (although admittedly imperfectly). Between it's demise and the emergence of DefCore (which is predicated on the look back to what's already out there), I'm concerned that we may not have sufficient mechanism to rapidly foster and proliferate net new capabilities. Are we I?gnoring an opportunity to encourage new innovation?
>> 
>> Wishing I could attend this week's sessions (the first bullet above applies) to take part... good luck!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rob Esker
>> NetApp, Inc.
>> +14089307782
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/16/15, 4:24 PM, "Shamail Tahir" wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> We have finalized the content for the Monday 11:15AM session 
>>> entitled "What's Next in OpenStack? A Glimpse At The Roadmap". 
>>> Please provide feedback to me directly if you notice any glaring errors, typos, etc.
>>> I will continue to make minor tweaks as needed but we will not be 
>>> changing content unless absolutely necessary. Thank you to everyone 
>>> who helped with this presentation and with talking to the PTLs/Core 
>>> members to get their projects plans/desired focus areas for the new few releases!
>>> 
>>> Link:
>>> https://my.syncplicity.com/share/02nk99kl4rrighb/A%20Glimpse%20At%20
>>> Th
>>> e%20Roadmap%20Deck%20V3%20(Final)
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shamail Tahir
>>> Cloud Architect, EMC
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