[Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

Shamail Tahir itzshamail at gmail.com
Mon May 11 07:18:37 UTC 2015


Hi everyone,

Here is a document that I put together for review on Monday (prior to our
cross-project meeting on Tuesday).  I look forward to speaking with you
later today.

Link:
https://my.syncplicity.com/share/vow1wxgretsw45b/OpenStack%20Roadmap%20Glimpse%20V1

Thanks,
Shamail


On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Mike. I'll add us to the cross-project agenda for Tuesday.
>
> Carol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Cohen [mailto:cohen at noironetworks.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:08 AM
> To: Shamail
> Cc: Barrett, Carol L; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
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> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That will work for me too.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 8, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Works for me.
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Barrett, Carol L
> >> <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
> >>> +1.
> >>>
> >>> How does 11:00 AM Pacific work for people?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Carol
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Shamail Tahir [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:03 AM
> >>> To: Mike Cohen
> >>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
> >>>
> >>> That works, should we schedule a meeting on Monday to review notes so
> that we can coalesce before the cross-project meeting?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ok, with me.  Maybe then lets just all assemble separate notes
> >>>> without changing the google doc and someone can collate it.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> I think that will work.  I'll be traveling most of the day and I
> >>>>> was
> >>>> planning to download the slides and take an attempt at the
> summarization.
> >>>> I'll share my draft by Monday.  Maybe a few of us can attempt
> >>>> building summaries.  This will give us multiple
> >>>> perspectives/summaries to pull from for each project before we
> >>>> finalize the ones we can internally agree on prior to the
> cross-project meeting.  Is this okay?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll be midway through the airport security.  I try to join for a
> >>>>>> portion but cannot be counted on unfortunately.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The other question is who is going to do the summarizing.  I went
> >>>>>> ahead and removed the labels with people's names from slides 9-17.
> >>>>>> I've also backed up all of these slides to the end of the preso.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Shamail / Scott or whoever else wants to edit these.  Go ahead
> >>>>>> and put your name in a new label on the slide to show its been done.
> >>>>>> Would that work as a process?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Scott Drennan <
> >>>> scottd at nuagenetworks.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I like that we’re reviewing with the PTLs - thanks for pushing
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>> forward.
> >>>>>>> According to
> >>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting
> >>>>>>> it’s at 2100 UTC, which is 1400 PT if I’m doing my math correctly.
> >>>>>>> I’m travelling/in meetings Tuesday afternoon but will try to
> >>>>>>> join for some
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>> the discussion.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ok with me.  We can take a crack at it and see how it goes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When is the cross project session tuesday? I'm traveling that
> >>>>>>> day so i may or may not be able to make it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Team, Mike?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
> >>>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think we should ask for 20 mins and review the Summary. I'm
> >>>>>>> concerned about getting their mindshare outside of the meeting
> >>>>>>> in the swirl of Vancouver prep work going on.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> Carol
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:28 AM
> >>>>>>> To: Barrett, Carol L
> >>>>>>> Cc: Mike Cohen; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Carol,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The timeline would work and sounds like a great way for reaching
> >>>>>>> a lot
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>> PTLs.  Do we want to review the summary or just ask for 5 min to
> >>>>>>> tell
> >>>> them
> >>>>>>> where to find it and provide feedback directly to us?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Shamail
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
> >>>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Shamail - I like  your proposed solution. How about we put
> >>>>>>> ourselves
> >>>> on the
> >>>>>>> cross project session for Tuesday to review? Will that give
> >>>>>>> enough
> >>>> time to
> >>>>>>> summarize?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> Carol
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 5:30 PM
> >>>>>>> To: Mike Cohen
> >>>>>>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I wanted to follow-up on the "roadmap" slides conversation we
> >>>>>>> had
> >>>> earlier
> >>>>>>> today.  Here are some thoughts to start the discussion via the
> ML...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There are two approaches and we will need to balance between them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Problem Statement:
> >>>>>>> The way the PTL feedback is documented today is not consumable
> >>>>>>> content
> >>>> form
> >>>>>>> (no theme, no "why", etc.), but at the same time, paraphrasing
> >>>>>>> could
> >>>> put us
> >>>>>>> in a situation where we could unintentionally misrepresent their
> >>>> intentions.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Proposed Solution:
> >>>>>>> We build a new version of the roadmap content that is summarized
> >>>>>>> and provides "themes" or the "why" and we ask the PTLs to review
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>> paraphrased
> >>>>>>> version and approve it prior to the summit.  This would have to
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>> done by
> >>>>>>> next week.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alternative Plan:
> >>>>>>> We also keep a version of the roadmap that is the same content
> >>>>>>> on the roadmap as today.  If we can't get PTL responses in time
> >>>>>>> then we move forward with this version.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Summary:
> >>>>>>> Roadmap focus would be good for session #1 and paraphrasing
> >>>>>>> would be beneficial.  If we can't get PTLs to review our
> >>>>>>> modified version then
> >>>> we
> >>>>>>> have to move forward with the alternative plan.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll take an initial shot at summarizing the current feedback.
> >>>>>>> I'll
> >>>> share
> >>>>>>> my progress with the team no later than Monday.  We can modify
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>> summary
> >>>>>>> as a team afterwards.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Shamail
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A few of us got on the phone today and discussed having a final
> >>>>>>> meeting to finalize the presentation flow for the Monday session.
> >>>>>>> We are largely there on content but really still have to nail
> >>>>>>> down the presenters and finalize things. We also still have to
> >>>>>>> finalize how to split things with the second session.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am proposing doing this at 9am PT Thurs 5/14.  I've set it up
> >>>>>>> as a webex so we can review the PPT version of the slides
> >>>>>>> Shamail has been gracious enough to build from our Google doc
> >>>>>>> (note please don't add to the google doc without telling him from
> here on out).
> >>>>>>> If the time is not good for anyone who wants to be involved, you
> >>>>>>> can speak up on this thread as well.
> >>>>>>>
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> >>> Shamail Tahir
> >>> Cloud Architect, EMC
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Shamail Tahir
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