[Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

Barrett, Carol L carol.l.barrett at intel.com
Fri May 8 17:31:52 UTC 2015


+1.

How does 11:00 AM Pacific work for people?

Thanks
Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamail Tahir [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: Mike Cohen
Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

That works, should we schedule a meeting on Monday to review notes so that we can coalesce before the cross-project meeting?


On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:

> ok, with me.  Maybe then lets just all assemble separate notes without 
> changing the google doc and someone can collate it.
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think that will work.  I'll be traveling most of the day and I was
> planning to download the slides and take an attempt at the summarization.
> I'll share my draft by Monday.  Maybe a few of us can attempt building 
> summaries.  This will give us multiple perspectives/summaries to pull 
> from for each project before we finalize the ones we can internally 
> agree on prior to the cross-project meeting.  Is this okay?
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 8, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll be midway through the airport security.  I try to join for a 
> >> portion but cannot be counted on unfortunately.
> >>
> >> The other question is who is going to do the summarizing.  I went 
> >> ahead and removed the labels with people's names from slides 9-17.
> >> I've also backed up all of these slides to the end of the preso.
> >>
> >> Shamail / Scott or whoever else wants to edit these.  Go ahead and 
> >> put your name in a new label on the slide to show its been done.  
> >> Would that work as a process?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Scott Drennan <
> scottd at nuagenetworks.net> wrote:
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> I like that we’re reviewing with the PTLs - thanks for pushing 
> >>> this
> forward.
> >>> According to
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting
> >>> it’s at 2100 UTC, which is 1400 PT if I’m doing my math correctly.  
> >>> I’m travelling/in meetings Tuesday afternoon but will try to join 
> >>> for some
> of
> >>> the discussion.
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ok with me.  We can take a crack at it and see how it goes.
> >>>
> >>> When is the cross project session tuesday? I'm traveling that day 
> >>> so i may or may not be able to make it.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> Team, Mike?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think we should ask for 20 mins and review the Summary. I'm 
> >>> concerned about getting their mindshare outside of the meeting in 
> >>> the swirl of Vancouver prep work going on.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Carol
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:28 AM
> >>> To: Barrett, Carol L
> >>> Cc: Mike Cohen; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
> >>>
> >>> Hi Carol,
> >>>
> >>> The timeline would work and sounds like a great way for reaching a 
> >>> lot
> of
> >>> PTLs.  Do we want to review the summary or just ask for 5 min to 
> >>> tell
> them
> >>> where to find it and provide feedback directly to us?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Shamail
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 8, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Shamail - I like  your proposed solution. How about we put 
> >>> ourselves
> on the
> >>> cross project session for Tuesday to review? Will that give enough
> time to
> >>> summarize?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Carol
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 5:30 PM
> >>> To: Mike Cohen
> >>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to follow-up on the "roadmap" slides conversation we had
> earlier
> >>> today.  Here are some thoughts to start the discussion via the ML...
> >>>
> >>> There are two approaches and we will need to balance between them.
> >>>
> >>> Problem Statement:
> >>> The way the PTL feedback is documented today is not consumable 
> >>> content
> form
> >>> (no theme, no "why", etc.), but at the same time, paraphrasing 
> >>> could
> put us
> >>> in a situation where we could unintentionally misrepresent their
> intentions.
> >>>
> >>> Proposed Solution:
> >>> We build a new version of the roadmap content that is summarized 
> >>> and provides "themes" or the "why" and we ask the PTLs to review 
> >>> the
> paraphrased
> >>> version and approve it prior to the summit.  This would have to be
> done by
> >>> next week.
> >>>
> >>> Alternative Plan:
> >>> We also keep a version of the roadmap that is the same content on 
> >>> the roadmap as today.  If we can't get PTL responses in time then 
> >>> we move forward with this version.
> >>>
> >>> Summary:
> >>> Roadmap focus would be good for session #1 and paraphrasing would 
> >>> be beneficial.  If we can't get PTLs to review our modified 
> >>> version then
> we
> >>> have to move forward with the alternative plan.
> >>>
> >>> I'll take an initial shot at summarizing the current feedback.  
> >>> I'll
> share
> >>> my progress with the team no later than Monday.  We can modify the
> summary
> >>> as a team afterwards.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Shamail
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A few of us got on the phone today and discussed having a final 
> >>> meeting to finalize the presentation flow for the Monday session.  
> >>> We are largely there on content but really still have to nail down 
> >>> the presenters and finalize things. We also still have to finalize 
> >>> how to split things with the second session.
> >>>
> >>> I am proposing doing this at 9am PT Thurs 5/14.  I've set it up as 
> >>> a webex so we can review the PPT version of the slides Shamail has 
> >>> been gracious enough to build from our Google doc (note please 
> >>> don't add to the google doc without telling him from here on out).
> >>> If the time is not good for anyone who wants to be involved, you 
> >>> can speak up on this thread as well.
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Thanks,
Shamail Tahir
Cloud Architect, EMC
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