[Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

Mike Cohen cohen at noironetworks.com
Fri May 8 17:01:40 UTC 2015


ok, with me.  Maybe then lets just all assemble separate notes without
changing the google doc and someone can collate it.

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that will work.  I'll be traveling most of the day and I was planning to download the slides and take an attempt at the summarization.  I'll share my draft by Monday.  Maybe a few of us can attempt building summaries.  This will give us multiple perspectives/summaries to pull from for each project before we finalize the ones we can internally agree on prior to the cross-project meeting.  Is this okay?
>
>
>
>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'll be midway through the airport security.  I try to join for a
>> portion but cannot be counted on unfortunately.
>>
>> The other question is who is going to do the summarizing.  I went
>> ahead and removed the labels with people's names from slides 9-17.
>> I've also backed up all of these slides to the end of the preso.
>>
>> Shamail / Scott or whoever else wants to edit these.  Go ahead and put
>> your name in a new label on the slide to show its been done.  Would
>> that work as a process?
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Scott Drennan <scottd at nuagenetworks.net> wrote:
>>> +1
>>>
>>> I like that we’re reviewing with the PTLs - thanks for pushing this forward.
>>> According to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting
>>> it’s at 2100 UTC, which is 1400 PT if I’m doing my math correctly.  I’m
>>> travelling/in meetings Tuesday afternoon but will try to join for some of
>>> the discussion.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok with me.  We can take a crack at it and see how it goes.
>>>
>>> When is the cross project session tuesday? I'm traveling that day so i
>>> may or may not be able to make it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Team, Mike?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think we should ask for 20 mins and review the Summary. I'm concerned
>>> about getting their mindshare outside of the meeting in the swirl of
>>> Vancouver prep work going on.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Carol
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:28 AM
>>> To: Barrett, Carol L
>>> Cc: Mike Cohen; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>>>
>>> Hi Carol,
>>>
>>> The timeline would work and sounds like a great way for reaching a lot of
>>> PTLs.  Do we want to review the summary or just ask for 5 min to tell them
>>> where to find it and provide feedback directly to us?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shamail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Shamail - I like  your proposed solution. How about we put ourselves on the
>>> cross project session for Tuesday to review? Will that give enough time to
>>> summarize?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Carol
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 5:30 PM
>>> To: Mike Cohen
>>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I wanted to follow-up on the "roadmap" slides conversation we had earlier
>>> today.  Here are some thoughts to start the discussion via the ML...
>>>
>>> There are two approaches and we will need to balance between them.
>>>
>>> Problem Statement:
>>> The way the PTL feedback is documented today is not consumable content form
>>> (no theme, no "why", etc.), but at the same time, paraphrasing could put us
>>> in a situation where we could unintentionally misrepresent their intentions.
>>>
>>> Proposed Solution:
>>> We build a new version of the roadmap content that is summarized and
>>> provides "themes" or the "why" and we ask the PTLs to review the paraphrased
>>> version and approve it prior to the summit.  This would have to be done by
>>> next week.
>>>
>>> Alternative Plan:
>>> We also keep a version of the roadmap that is the same content on the
>>> roadmap as today.  If we can't get PTL responses in time then we move
>>> forward with this version.
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>> Roadmap focus would be good for session #1 and paraphrasing would be
>>> beneficial.  If we can't get PTLs to review our modified version then we
>>> have to move forward with the alternative plan.
>>>
>>> I'll take an initial shot at summarizing the current feedback.  I'll share
>>> my progress with the team no later than Monday.  We can modify the summary
>>> as a team afterwards.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Shamail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A few of us got on the phone today and discussed having a final
>>> meeting to finalize the presentation flow for the Monday session.  We
>>> are largely there on content but really still have to nail down the
>>> presenters and finalize things. We also still have to finalize how to
>>> split things with the second session.
>>>
>>> I am proposing doing this at 9am PT Thurs 5/14.  I've set it up as a
>>> webex so we can review the PPT version of the slides Shamail has been
>>> gracious enough to build from our Google doc (note please don't add
>>> to the google doc without telling him from here on out).
>>> If the time is not good for anyone who wants to be involved, you can
>>> speak up on this thread as well.
>>>
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