[Product] [product-wg] roadmap workflow
Mike Cohen
cohen at noironetworks.com
Tue Mar 3 00:47:56 UTC 2015
At least in terms of the socialization project, I am not going to be
present in person at the operator summit unfortunately (could join remotely
monday potentially though). A bunch of other folks have worked on this
part as well though so I bet someone else is going in person?
What we have now is still pretty rough but we could show it in some form
(its not a roadmap, its just a compilation of input from PTLs).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kupS0hXh9aA15dJOs2A8XHbrisvnls94F7thJekT4jk/edit?usp=drive_web
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:42 PM, sean roberts <seanroberts66 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> As long as we only communicate what we are working on, I am good with
> presenting something at the Operators midcycle.
>
> Like the DefCore work, we need to follow a protocol of working through the
> TC as the technical responsible group. I would like to gradually over the
> next many months, make the Product team technical responsible as well, but
> we need to earn that job. The PTLs would remain the accountable ones.
>
> We have a lot of work to do first.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Barrett, Carol L <
> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm working on #2.....
> >
> > From: Scott Drennan [mailto:scottd at nuagenetworks.net]
> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:31 PM
> > To: Shamail
> > Cc: Barrett, Carol L; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> > Subject: Re: [Product] [product-wg] roadmap workflow
> >
> > The challenge I see with presenting the output of the socialization
> > activity to the Operators as a roadmap is that we didn't ask the PTLs for
> > their roadmap, we asked them what they were working on. The process I
> > recall discussing was:
> >
> >
> > 1. Gather information from PTLs
> > 2. refine and consolidate into something coherent
> > 3. validate with PTLs
> > 4. present more broadly
> >
> > with a target for Step 4 in Vancouver. This gives the PTLs a chance to
> > see what each other have shared, and possibly change some of their
> answers.
> >
> > We're still at step 1, so sharing this in a roadmap-ish format at the
> > Operators meetup seems premature to me. Am I being overly cautious here?
> >
> > cheers,
> > Scott
> >
> > On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com<mailto:
> > itzshamail at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Please do, I'd love to see it in that format at some point too. Happy to
> > help if needed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 2, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com
> > <mailto:carol.l.barrett at intel.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone started work in taking this info and turning it into a
> > roadmap-ish form that can be used at the Operators Meet-up next week? If
> > not, I can take a stab at it.
> > Carol
> >
> > From: Arkady_Kanevsky at DELL.com<mailto:Arkady_Kanevsky at DELL.com> [mailto:
> > Arkady_Kanevsky at DELL.com<http://DELL.com>]
> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:35 PM
> > To: Barrett, Carol L; seanroberts66 at gmail.com<mailto:
> > seanroberts66 at gmail.com>; product-wg at lists.openstack.org<mailto:
> > product-wg at lists.openstack.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Product] [product-wg] roadmap workflow
> >
> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-product-management-socialization
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barrett, Carol L [mailto:carol.l.barrett at intel.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:31 PM
> > To: sean roberts; product-wg at lists.openstack.org<mailto:
> > product-wg at lists.openstack.org<mailto:product-wg at lists.openstack.org%
> > 3cmailto:product-wg at lists.openstack.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [Product] [product-wg] roadmap workflow
> >
> > I thought I saw a link to the work-in-process roadmap, based upon the PTL
> > interviews, but can't find it now that I have time to work on it. Can
> > someone forward it?
> > Thanks
> > Carol
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sean roberts [mailto:seanroberts66 at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:43 PM
> > To: product-wg at lists.openstack.org<mailto:product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:product-wg at lists.openstack.org%
> > 3cmailto:product-wg at lists.openstack.org>>
> > Subject: [Product] [product-wg] roadmap workflow
> >
> > Now that DefCore is somewhat finished for the next board meeting, I have
> > cycles to focus on the product team.
> >
> > I have to point out that the more I discuss the product team with people
> > both within and without OpenStack, I get more interested in what we can
> > accomplish with this work. Getting down off my soapbox. I share the
> product
> > team release process that was started at the last face to face meeting.
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13JPDDiBGGXf5dtP0u8C-1So2Mjb3yEmGhv_ijVqyEf0/edit?usp=sharing
> > .
> > I have fleshed out some basics with a timeline and responsibilities. I am
> > creating the flowchart as I send this email.
> >
> > Win-the-enterprise, project tagging, incubation-lite, and DefCore will
> > overlap with what we are working on here. I will keep updating this ML
> as I
> > figure out new information. Do the same as you hear new issues and
> > discussions that can effect our work.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Mike Cohen wrote:
> >
> > Hey all, I have started to compile notes from the projects on this
> > spreadsheet. I didn't want to make it world writable to avoid someone
> > just deleting the whole thing but anyone who requests access I will
> grant.
> >
> > We still need feedback from a number of projects. If you have one and
> > dont' have time to get it, speak up and someone else can jump in.
> >
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kupS0hXh9aA15dJOs2A8XHbrisvnls
> > 94F7thJekT4jk/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > Assignments:
> > Nova - Steve
> > Cinder - Naren
> > Keystone - Naren
> > Trove - Matt
> > Ceilomter - Malini
> > Ironic - Scott
> > TripleO - Sean
> > Sahara - Malini
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Winn, Sean wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > Definitely open to some help! Thanks for the offer
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> > On 2/8/15, 5:18 PM, "Matt Griffin" wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to plug into this effort. Trove is the best area for me to
> > contribute as that's where I've had the most interaction.
> >
> > Sean Winn: You already have that service. Open to some help?
> >
> > Best,
> > Matt
> >
> > On Sunday, February 8, 2015, Mike Cohen
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Right, I submitted a talk for a 40 minute slot. I put down
> > everyone
> > who
> >
> > has listed their name on the socialization etherpad so far as a
> > speaker
> >
> > (please email me directly if you still want in so I don't have to
> > keep checking it throughout the evening :)
> >
> > If there is a 15 minute slot, we could potentially grab that as
> > well
> > as
> >
> > Scott points out. Could be a good way to summarize but the
> > product WG is
> > actually doing and get feedback on our charter. Or if talk time is
> > super
> > competitive we could try to summarize the whole thing in a 15
> > minute slot if thats all we could get.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Scott Drennan <
> > scottd at nuagenetworks.net<mailto:scottd at nuagenetworks.net<mailto:
> > scottd at nuagenetworks.net%3cmailto:scottd at nuagenetworks.net>>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > I believe everyone is pushing their updates to the shared
> > etherpad
> > at
> >
> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-product-management-socializa
> > tion
> > ,
> >
> > but there are a bunch missing still (including one of mine).
> >
> > I believe the talk proposal Mike put in was for a full slot,
> > but it
> > might
> >
> > be worth having a 15 minute summary as well. It depends on
> > what we
> > want
> > to
> >
> > accomplish:
> >
> > Share key cross-project themes, tell people there's more detail
> > available
> >
> > (15 minutes)
> > Provide some detail on where the projects are heading, get
> > feedback
> > (45-50
> >
> > minutes)
> >
> > What were you thinking of putting in the 15 minutes?
> >
> > cheers,
> > Scott
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2015, at 2:38 PM, sean roberts
> > <seanroberts66 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:seanroberts66 at gmail.com%0b>> > >> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Can your team start publishing the information you have
> > gathered
> > so
> >
> > far?
> >
> > My
> >
> > first choices would be gdoc or wiki page.
> >
> > I am thinking 15 minutes to during the summit talk to
> > summarize
> > you
> >
> > information.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Winn, Sean <Sean.Winn at emc.com
> > <mailto:Sean.Winn at emc.com%0b>> > >> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I would appreciate if the participants in the socialization
> > subcommittee
> >
> > would post their contact information into the Etherpad at
> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-product-management-socialization
> >
> > or
> >
> > respond to this email if you prefer to not post in the etherpad.
> > This
> >
> > is
> >
> > especially important if you want to participate in the
> > speaker
> > session
> >
> > which I am submitting for the Summit in Vancouver.
> >
> > If you have spoken with a PTL who would be comfortable
> > getting on
> > stage
> >
> > to
> >
> > show support for our program, that would be especially helpful.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sean Winn
> >
> >
> >
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