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On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, <Arkady_Kanevsky at dell.com> wrote:

> I will be happy to lead either:
>
> Tempest and Grenade as deployment/upgrade validation tool, or
>
> interleaving Enterprise readiness into themes, maturity and longer term
> architecture
>
> Breakout Sessions.
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>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arkady
>
>
>
> *From:* Haselmaier, James [mailto:James.Haselmaier at emc.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','James.Haselmaier at emc.com');>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:16 PM
> *To:* sean roberts; Kanevsky, Arkady
> *Cc:* brian.rosmaita at rackspace.com
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> aj.park at icloud.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aj.park at icloud.com');>;
> cohen at noironetworks.com
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> rochelle.grober at huawei.com
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> product-wg at lists.openstack.org
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> *Subject:* Re: Time to Pick Topics
>
>
>
> I’m willing to help/lead this session.  Hopefully it’s “help” - meaning
> others will want to contribute.
>
>
>
> The bottom line:  Sign me up to be coordination point if you like.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From: *sean roberts <seanroberts66 at gmail.com
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> *Date: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 3:01 PM
> *To: *"Arkady_Kanevsky at dell.com
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> Arkady_Kanevsky at dell.com
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> brian.rosmaita at rackspace.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brian.rosmaita at rackspace.com');>>, Jim
> Haselmaier <James.Haselmaier at emc.com
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> rochelle.grober at huawei.com
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> rochelle.grober at huawei.com
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> product-wg at lists.openstack.org
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> product-wg at lists.openstack.org
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> *Subject: *Re: Time to Pick Topics
>
>
>
> The voting is in
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-product-management-midcycle
>
>
>
> ·  1. ( Randy Bias would be the speaker, but will be out of town, someone
> else willing to step in?) establish a process by which longer term vision
> and product direction can emerge from within the community,
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/product-wg/2014-December/000051.html
>
>
>
> Plus
>
>
>
> 2-3 year architecture / use case strategy. Win the Enterprise is doing
> parts of this. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise. Each
> project has its own vision for the future. This group should debate the
> current state of binding use cases to development plans on a ongoing basis.
>
>
> 2.  (Sean Robertss speaker unless a TC member could be found) Tagging
> approach to project maturity, http://ttx.re/the-way-forward.html, TC spec
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138504/5/resolutions/20141202-project-structure-reform-spec.rst
>
> 3. (Rob Hirschfeld as speaker) defcore and refstack. havana capabilities
> and designated sections are set. What does this mean? What's in store for
> icehouse and beyond?
>
> 4. (Gary Kotton as speaker) Neutron services split
> https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/services-split.rst
>
> 5. (Sean, Allison, Rob, Stefano will lead the discussion) discuss this
> group's charter.   Establish cadence and forum for regular meetings of
> this working group <- perhaps one to coincide with the BoD meeting in NY
> in March?
>
>
>
> Breakout sessions: Crossproject specs and efforts this cycle
>
> 1.       - Logging rationalization efforts/direction including
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132552/
>
> 2.       - OS profiler including
>
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134839/
>
> - Tempest and Grenade as deployment/upgrade validation tool
>
> -  Telco group and Public Cloud Providers architecture/strategy/use cases
>
> - interleaving Enterprise readiness into themes, maturity and longer term
> architecture
>
> - any others?
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015, <Arkady_Kanevsky at dell.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Arkady_Kanevsky at dell.com');>> wrote:
>
> As long as we can interleave Enterprise readiness into themes, maturity
> and longer term architectures I am fine with this list to start.
> Arkady
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Rosmaita [mailto:brian.rosmaita at RACKSPACE.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:35 PM
> To: Haselmaier, James; AJ Park; Mike Cohen; Rochelle Grober;
> product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Product] Time to Pick Topics
>
> I agree with Jim on both points, viz., Randy's topic as #1 choice and
> discussing release "themes".
>
> cheers,
> brian
> ________________________________________
> From: Haselmaier, James [James.Haselmaier at emc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:37 PM
> To: AJ Park; Mike Cohen; Rochelle Grober; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Product] Time to Pick Topics
>
> If I were to pick my top concern it¹s Randy¹s.  (AJ¹s #1 below.)  I think
> a number of things flow out of getting that right.  If we don¹t get that
> right then I think we have virtually no hope of keeping the teams
> coordinated at some level.  As part of Randy¹s I¹d also drive to establish
> the concept of ³themes² for each release - and specifying those themes more
> than one release out.  So, for example, if a theme is reliability, each
> project can point to efforts in that direction.  Or interoperability, or
> whatever.
>
> Jim
>
> On 1/20/15, 11:33 AM, "AJ Park" <aj.park at icloud.com> wrote:
>
> >My votes:
> >
> >1. (Randy) establish a process by which longer term vision and product
> >direction can emerge from within the community,
> >http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/product-wg/2014-December/000051.ht
> >ml
> >
> >2. (Sarob)Tagging approach to project maturity,
> >http://ttx.re/the-way-forward.html, TC spec
> >https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138504/5/resolutions/20141202-project-
> >str
> >ucture-reform-spec.rst
> >
> >3. (sarob) 2-3 year architecture / use case strategy. Win the
> >Enterprise is doing parts of this.
> >https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise. Each project has
> >its own vision for the future. This group should debate the current
> >state of binding use cases to development plans on a ongoing basis.
> >
> >Note: I expect #3 to emerge when we follow the process determined in #1.
> >
> >Best,
> >AJ
> >
> >On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >Ideas I've heard on this thread that I would vote for:
> >
> >- rob on defcore / revstack. , Should cover broader governance changes
> >for projects here or in an adjacent session.
> >- multi-release strategy / long term vision (maybe randy?)
> >- Discussion on what the goals of this group are / what charter is.
> >Doesn't seem we've closed on this over email.
> >- Use Cases / Key gaps in OpenStack that need to be filled
> >- Overview / Review of what operators group is doing / has done (for
> >background for everyone)
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Rochelle Grober
> ><rochelle.grober at huawei.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >sean roberts [mailto:seanroberts66 at gmail.com], Monday, January 19, 2015
> >1:18 PM wrote:
> >The win the enterprise group continues to come up with use cases. It's
> >working on adding filling gaps in the docs as well.
> >Between the operator, win the enterprise groups, this subteam would
> >isolate and test out those use cases and publish the results?
> >[Rockyg]
> >Excellent question. I think it would be really useful to have/get a
> >quick overview of these non-developer groups and their charter/mission.
> >I was under the impression that the win the enterprise group was a
> >cross between product marketing and product management? Not sure.
> >My thoughts on the reference architecture team(s) would be that as a
> >cross project group, they could identify/specify architectures based on
> >use cases, then work together to define, document, automate
> >installation and interop testing and publish all of the generated
> information.
> >I think, after the initial implement/document/publish cycle, the
> >hardest part will be updating for every OpenStack release. And, if the
> >devs get the upgrade process correct, then it might mostly be
> >documenting the new and deprecated features.
> >The key take away here is that there should be a less than one day
> >process for any of the endusers to install a small multimode cloud for
> >their own purposes, similar to what devstack does for devs. And for
> >endusers, it needs to be extremely well documented.
> >This could even be used in training courses for the lab work phases.
> >--Rocky
> >On Monday, January 19, 2015, Rochelle Grober
> ><rochelle.grober at huawei.com <mailto:rochelle.grober at huawei.com>> wrote:
> >I believe Rob Hirschfeld will be in attendance so, Rob (and I if he
> >wants
> >me) can cover the DefCore and Refstack session. Rob is certainly the
> >expert on DefCore.
> >I'd also like to propose a session on defining/finding a project
> >manager to start creating some reference architectures with tested
> >installs. Right now there is a discussion on the Operators' list on a
> >small installation,
> >3-5 nodes, with HA. This could be a fine first reference architecture
> >with all the code and docs to make it similar (or better) to install
> >than devstack. This is also a good architecture for prospective users
> >for prototyping, testing, or small business installation. Spec'ing this
> >out during the summit, or at least getting a good start, along with a
> >volunteer project manager, would be a very worthwhile endeavor for the
> >meetup.
> >--Rocky
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: sean roberts [mailto:seanroberts66 at gmail.com<javascript:;>]
> >Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 11:44 AM
> >To: product-wg at lists.openstack.org<javascript:;>
> >Subject: [Product] Time to Pick Topics
> >It¹s time to finalize the OpenStack Product Management topics for the
> >Kilo midcycle meeting <
> >http://sarob.com/2015/01/openstack-kilo-product-management-midcycle-com
> >ing
> >-to-a-greater-understanding/
> >>
> >coming
> >up. We will need speakers for each topic. I want to get the best
> >authority possible for each talk, so locking down the topics is
> >required. I will need to get their commitment as soon as possible.
> >More details on this post
> >http://sarob.com/2015/01/getting-ready-for-the-product-management-kilo-
> >mid
> >cycle/
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