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My concern is I don't understand why this discussion would not happen with
the broader project, which is on the openstack-dev list, IRC meetings, and
in gerrit. Is there a reason any of those three things won't work? And if
so, what is the purpose of the discussions here? Is it more of just
communicating changes? Call me honestly confused.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sean Roberts <seanroberts66 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> It's not about if should happen, but discussing the change. We are very
> good at communicating within a project. This group can discuss the big
> changes/ideas from many of the projects. The services split is a good
> example I think. Nothing to do with the good or bad.
>
> ~sean
>
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Sean Roberts <seanroberts66 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to set the in person meeting for the week of 26 January in Palo
>> Alto VMware.  Depending on below, we need to decide how long is needed;
>> half day to two days is my guess.
>>
>> I think this is the most important spec/blueprint right now. Neutron
>> services split
>> https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/services-split.rst
>>
>> This is already implemented actually, so I'm not sure what discussing
> would mean here. We're just cleaning up the pieces post-split.
>
>
>> I think this is the most important topic to discuss right now. Tagging
>> approach to project maturity, http://ttx.re/the-way-forward.html
>>
>> We can start the discussion here. I think these topics will be more than
>> enough to make a difference this release.
>>
>> ~ sean
>>
>> > On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 12/21/2014 12:56 PM, Colette Alexander wrote:
>> >> This all sounds good - but it also sounds like a lot of continuous
>> work and
>> >> commitment to be a part of the community in ways that haven't yet
>> existed.
>> >> To that end, I wonder how this collaboration might happen. I know
>> there's a
>> >> mid-cycle meetup being planned - is there anything else that might make
>> >> sense for us to do on a more regular (weekly?) basis? I have all of the
>> >> where/how questions about the above list (which is a *great* one) -
>> and one
>> >> question that Allison,Sean and Rob posited at the Summit still sticks
>> in my
>> >> craw: are we all willing, as a group, to share pieces of our
>> >> roadmap/customer feedback & internal prioritization at the open source
>> >> level to help out with this?
>> >
>> > That's a great question and one that I'd love to see answered.
>> >
>> > I'd honestly settle if anyone in this group would identify the most
>> > important specs, for them, and ask to this group for any doubt/question
>> > they have.
>> >
>> > For example, Neutron approved *a lot* of specs for Kilo, the core team
>> > knows they've over-booked their resources. Chances are, a lot of these
>> > specs have high chances of not going to be shipped in Kilo release.
>> >
>> > http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/
>> >
>> >> It might be a thing that has to develop organically through meetings,
>> but I
>> >> do think developing our own upstream shared space of understanding and
>> ways
>> >> of work will be the first step, before we can provide a unified vision
>> to
>> >> present & help with project work happening upstream.
>> >
>> > Meeting regularly would be good. Any thoughts on the medium and time?
>> >
>> >> I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above, *especially* with the
>> >> not-telling-project teams what to do. I do think some work could/might
>> be
>> >> done by this group during a development cycle with an eye towards
>> >> presenting to developers or teams before the summit for the next
>> >> development cycle. I also think for folks who are on the more program
>> >> spectrum of things (as opposed to product management), meeting or
>> gathering
>> >> mid-cycle to reaffirm resource commitments through the end of the
>> >> development cycle, or all folks gathering to help re-prioritize if
>> projects
>> >> need it, wouldn't be awful either.
>> >
>> > I'll let Sean kick-off the conversation about an in-person meeting some
>> > time before/around kilo-2.
>> >
>> > /stef
>> >
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