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On 11/11/2014 03:44 PM, Roland Chan wrote:
> In just saying that, some more big questions are raised:
> 
>    - What are the goals of this group?

I'll try pushing the ball forward. Thanks Roland for the assist.

In my opinion, the goal of this group is to share resources and
coordinate development efforts. A scenario I have in mind is:

  - company A needs to have feature X merged in kilo
  - company B needs to have bug Y fixed asap
  - X and Y either collide or complement each other
  - product owners of A and B can use this group to coordinate efforts,
avoid conflict, share precious resources, prioritize reviewer's time, etc.

There are other scenarios. We need to avoid getting towards the end of
the release cycle and have product owners reallocate resources in a way
that raises conflicts inside the community, creates inefficiencies. The
Product team should be one place (among others) where synergies can emerge.

>    - What strategy are we going to employ to achieve those goals?

I'd start by looking at the list of priorities published by Nova and
Neutron and make sure that your plans are not colliding:

-
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html

-
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html

If they collide ... let's talk about how to address them. At this stage
I think communication is key. We floated around the idea to meet in
person, although I'd suggest we start meeting regularly online before
that. Anyone wants to volunteer to select a time slot and rally
participants?

>    - How do we gain acceptance from the wider community for this effort?

What do you mean by 'wider community'?

>       - How do we find an effective mechanism for product management to
>       occur?
> 
> and no doubt there are more.

Let's get this straight: Product Management is already occurring in
OpenStack. We've been shipping a functioning product for years, so
product management per se is not the problem. I think we need now, given
the size of OpenStack, a better way to coordinate the various
conflicting commercial interests happening inside the ecosystem.

I've put some initial thoughts on the team's wiki page but I don't like
it myself. What do you think the mission of the group should be?

From:  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam

    Mission

    The Product working group is made of managers, people, functions,
    groups that own "products" based on OpenStack with the objective to
    complete the circle of end users, operators, product owners,
    developers.

/stef