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On 09/03/2018 07:27 AM, Eugen Block wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> To echo what cfriesen said, if you set your allocation ratio to 1.0, 
>> the system will not overcommit memory. Shut down instances consume 
>> memory from an inventory management perspective. If you don't want any 
>> danger of an instance causing an OOM, you must set you 
>> ram_allocation_ratio to 1.0.
> 
> let's forget about the scheduler, I'll try to make my question a bit 
> clearer.
> 
> Let's say I have a ratio of 1.0 on my hypervisor, and let it have 24 GB 
> of RAM available, ignoring the OS for a moment. Now I launch 6 
> instances, each with a flavor requesting 4 GB of RAM, that would leave 
> no space for further instances, right?
> Then I shutdown two instances (freeing 8 GB RAM) and create a new one 
> with 8 GB of RAM, the compute node is full again (assuming all instances 
> actually consume all of their RAM).
> Now I boot one of the shutdown instances again, the compute node would 
> require additional 4 GB of RAM for that instance, and this would lead to 
> OOM, isn't that correct? So a ratio of 1.0 would not prevent that from 
> happening, would it?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "shut down an instance". Perhaps 
this is what is leading to confusion. I consider "shutting down an 
instance" to be stopping or suspending an instance.

As I mentioned below, shutdown instances consume memory from an 
inventory management perspective. If you stop or suspend an instance on 
your host, that instance is still consuming the same amount of memory in 
the placement service. You will *not* be able to launch a new instance 
on that same compute host *unless* your allocation ratio is >1.0.

Now, if by "shut down an instance", you actually mean "terminate an 
instance" or possibly "shelve and then offload an instance", then that 
is a different thing, and in both of *those* cases, resources are 
released on the compute host.

Best,
-jay

> Zitat von Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com>:
> 
>> On 08/30/2018 10:54 AM, Eugen Block wrote:
>>> Hi Jay,
>>>
>>>> You need to set your ram_allocation_ratio nova.CONF option to 1.0 if 
>>>> you're running into OOM issues. This will prevent overcommit of 
>>>> memory on your compute nodes.
>>>
>>> I understand that, the overcommitment works quite well most of the time.
>>>
>>> It just has been an issue twice when I booted an instance that had 
>>> been shutdown a while ago. In the meantime there were new instances 
>>> created on that hypervisor, and this old instance caused the OOM.
>>>
>>> I would expect that with a ratio of 1.0 I would experience the same 
>>> issue, wouldn't I? As far as I understand the scheduler only checks 
>>> at instance creation, not when booting existing instances. Is that a 
>>> correct assumption?
>>
>> To echo what cfriesen said, if you set your allocation ratio to 1.0, 
>> the system will not overcommit memory. Shut down instances consume 
>> memory from an inventory management perspective. If you don't want any 
>> danger of an instance causing an OOM, you must set you 
>> ram_allocation_ratio to 1.0.
>>
>> The scheduler doesn't really have anything to do with this.
>>
>> Best,
>> -jay
>>
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