Open Stack

I found article from RDO website and it's very easy to setup but don't know about troubleshooting and complexity in production when you have many nodes. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
> 
> Can you share your info I was looking at that! 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Inviato da iPhone
> 
>> Il giorno 29 giu 2017, alle ore 06:23, Satish Patel <satish.txt at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> 
>> I have implemented DVR in test environment but not sure how much it's popular in production in sense of complexity and management. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dvr is good option if you want to implement a way to have your vms always available. It needs ovs. 
>>> 
>>> I still have not seen a doc details on implementation yet. 
>>> 
>>> :) 
>>> 
>>> Inviato da iPhone
>>> 
>>>> Il giorno 25 giu 2017, alle ore 12:38, Satish Patel <satish.txt at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you folks!
>>>> 
>>>> I have 5 node so following role i am planning to implement, I am
>>>> little confused related network component, should i use DVR
>>>> (distributed virtual router ) but problem is every single node need
>>>> public IP address in that case, first time building production style
>>>> openstack so don't know what would be the best option?
>>>> 
>>>> 1 controller + network
>>>> 4 compute node
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Mike Smith <mismith at overstock.com> wrote:
>>>>> Agree you should definitely check out what is already out there in community
>>>>> if you are starting from scratch.  In our specific case, we do our puppet
>>>>> configs manually because 1) we are still on puppet v3 for everything else
>>>>> and 2) we have been doing it this way since Folsom and it’s worked well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are about to build another new cluster on Ocata and I think for that one
>>>>> I will try and leverage more of the community puppet stuff if possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:49 PM, John van Ommen <john.vanommen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I couldn't agree more. OpenStack deployment is not a trivial task. Do not
>>>>> reinvent the wheel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017 12:04 PM, "Erik McCormick" <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you are a Puppet shop you should check out the Puppet community
>>>>>> modules. You will get familiar with all the inner goo as you'll need your
>>>>>> own composition layer (in my case a series of hiera files). There's no
>>>>>> reason to reinvent the wheel unless you really want to.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Erik
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017 2:19 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you all of you for your opinion, As mike suggested i am also
>>>>>>> planning to brew home grown puppet module to understand each and every
>>>>>>> component and their role instead of grabbing third party tool, I am
>>>>>>> sure OOO is best for 100 deploying 100 compute node but in my setup we
>>>>>>> have only 5 servers and its not worth it to manage undercloud server.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are puppet shop so it would be easy to write own code and go from
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I did a deployment with cs9 hp it was pretty bad. I hope the new one
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nevertheless I do not see many using hp out there. Maybe different
>>>>>>>> regions
>>>>>>>> like emea do better with that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Inviato da iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 21:10, John van Ommen
>>>>>>>> <john.vanommen at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At HPE we originally used TripleO but switched to a 'flat' model.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I personally didn't see any advantage to Triple O. In theory, it should
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> easier to manage and upgrade. In the real world, Helion 3.0 and 4.0 are
>>>>>>>> superior in every respect.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017 9:02 PM, "Remo Mattei" <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I worked for Red Hat and they really want to get ooo going because the
>>>>>>>>> installation tools did never work as everyone was hoping. Before Red
>>>>>>>>> Hat I
>>>>>>>>> was at Mirantis and the fuel installation was nice now dead. I know
>>>>>>>>> ooo will
>>>>>>>>> go into containers next couple of release but kolla–Ansible is one of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> emerging solutions now to get it out fast.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am doing a project now where I am working on deploying ooo just
>>>>>>>>> finished
>>>>>>>>> the doc for Ocata undercloud.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Just my two cents to concord with Mike’s statement.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Remo
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Inviato da iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 20:51, Mike Smith
>>>>>>>>> <mismith at overstock.com>
>>>>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There are definitely 1,001 opinions on what is “best”.  We use RDO at
>>>>>>>>> Overstock and we use home-grown puppet modules because we do our own
>>>>>>>>> puppet
>>>>>>>>> modules for everything else we do here.  We based everything around
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> official Openstack install documents and we do it because we want to
>>>>>>>>> *fully*
>>>>>>>>> understand everything we can instead of treating it like a black box
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> knows how to do the magic.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, there are lots of options out there - ansible, kolla, puppet
>>>>>>>>> plus
>>>>>>>>> vendor-specific options too like those provided by Mirantis.  If there
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> config management tools (ansible, puppet, etc) that you already use,
>>>>>>>>> you may
>>>>>>>>> want to check out the Openstack options for those.  You are correct
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> that packstack is more of a ‘all-in-one-server’ installer for a quick
>>>>>>>>> POC.
>>>>>>>>> It can to more, but I think RDO recommends “Triple-O” (which stands
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> Openstack-on-Openstack) for production RDO deploys.  Since they are
>>>>>>>>> affiliated with RedHat, they would also lean heavily towards the
>>>>>>>>> Ansible
>>>>>>>>> option as well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mike Smith
>>>>>>>>> Overstock Cloud Team
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Erik McCormick
>>>>>>>>> <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is a religious discussion for most, but I would suggest Kolla. It
>>>>>>>>> takes out a lot of the guess work, has a good upgrade mechanism, and
>>>>>>>>> is well
>>>>>>>>> supported by the community via mailing list and ORC. Take a look.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Erik
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017 7:15 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We are deploying 5 node openstack cloud for internal use and
>>>>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>> what method we should use, initial test was on RDO packstack but i
>>>>>>>>>> heard packstack isn't good for production, some people on google
>>>>>>>>>> suggesting using triplo. I found its little complicated because you
>>>>>>>>>> need one more extra server run undercloud openstack to deploy
>>>>>>>>>> overcloud openstack, should i really use triplo or is there any other
>>>>>>>>>> and easy method which can allow us to upgrade in future also.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list:
>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe :
>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Mailing list:
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe :
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wbr>5949ed75173232896912281!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Mailing list:
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe :
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Mailing list:
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe :
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Mailing list:
>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe :
>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Mailing list:
>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>> Unsubscribe :
>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Mailing list:
>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>> Unsubscribe :
>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>> Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>>> Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>> Post to     : openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>> Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
>>>> 
>>>> !DSPAM:1,5950147e175761804531647!
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> !DSPAM:1,5954ff59290051036310362!
>> 
>