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Production ready will not be deployed from source. 

Just my 2 cents. 

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> Il giorno 02 ott 2016, alle ore 18:36, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com> ha scritto:
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Turbo Fredriksson [mailto:turbo at bayour.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:13 AM
>> To: openstack List <openstack at lists.openstack.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove MySQL v5.[67] images?
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 2:00 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote:
>>> 
>>> I recall from our conversation that you didn't "trust all these *stack
>> builders".
>>> If you are now using a system that is devstack based these images could
>> help.
>> 
>> I still don't do that, it's all hand crafted from scratch. Well, almost -
>> I still use packages (which do _A LOT_ of the .. 'boring, simple' setup
>> for me) but that'll change next time. Next time I'm doing it from source
>> (because I'm embarrassed by the quality of the packages - I did a small
>> upgrade a few months ago and absolutly everything broke, I had to
>> completely
>> reinstall the controller)!
>> 
>> That's the only way _I_ can learn! Others might be different and I respect
>> that, but _I_ need to do this from scratch ("the hard way" if you like) to
>> be able to gain anything from this - the point wasn't just to "get a test
>> setup of Openstack up and running" or "setup a test so I can look at it"
>> but actually setting up a production-like system and to be able to
>> administrate it and especially fix problems if (when!) they arise! AND to
>> gain knowledge on how all this works together.
>> 
>> 
> 
> [amrith] As I said in IRC, one doesn't begin a career in aviation by attempting to land a Tomcat on an aircraft carrier in rough seas, but you felt that it would be "fun". I hope you are having "fun".
> 
>> It's been the worst few months in my life (and it's been a long life :)
>> with almost 24/7 work on getting this in the state it is now, but now that
>> almost everything works the way I want it, I feel a great satisfaction and
>> my knowledge of "The Cloud ((tm))" have been greatly improved and I almost
>> feel
>> I can put "Cloud Expert Extraordinair" on the CV :D :D.
>> 
>> I wouldn't recommend this to anyone 'green', but anyone that's already
>> bald
>> (there's going to be a lot of 'hair tearing' and 'head scratching' :) and
>> those that have a 'bigger purpose' than the immediate setup, oh yeah!
>> 
>>> [1]
>> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/trove/dev/building_guest_images.html
>> 
>> Tried that for over a week. Failed so miserably, it's embarrassing!
>> Don't know if it's me, the docs or the image builder..
>> 
>> But I do remember that even if (when!) I followed the documentations _to
>> the
>> letter_, it still failed.
>> 
>> Also, some versions of the image builder worked better than others (but I
>> could
>> not figure out the exact version used by the documenter), so it would be
>> beneficial to specify the exact versions used when writing the
>> documentation.
>> 
>> 
>> And have someone that never done it before do a run-through first - I know
>> from personal experience that you get .. 'code blind' (for lack of a
>> better
>> word) when you've worked with a project and try to write the docs - some
>> things
>> you know 'subconsciously' don't work (or work only in a specific use-case
>> etc)
>> and then 'automatically' leave that information out..
>> 
>> That is why [good] companies _NEVER_ (ever!!) allow the coders/admins to
>> go
>> any where _near_ the documentation! In a open source community, that is
>> unfortunately almost never an option, but it can be mitigated somewhat by
>> having other people in the community do a run-through.
>> 
>>> [2] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/trove/dev/guest_cloud_init.html
>> 
>> I can vaguely remember that. I know it failed, but can't remember the
>> details.
>> 
>>> [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374952/
>> 
>> That look quite interesting, thanx. I'll try again..
>> 
>> "If you don't succeed, try and try [and try and try ..] again!" :)
>> 
>>> OpenStack has guest images suitable for use with devstack[4]
>>> [4] http://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/images/
>> 
>> What does that actually mean? Is it not possible to use these images other
>> than with devstack? An instance image should be a unique, separate
> 
> [amrith] The paragraph
> 
> "OpenStack has guest images suitable for use with devstack[4] (available for download at tarballs.openstack.org) but that would require a devstack based system and I recall from our conversation that you didn't "trust all these *stack builders". If you are now using a system that is devstack based these images could help."
> 
> always amounts to the following; if you are using a devstack based system these may help. But since you insist on not doing that, I can only hope that you have "fun". I'd like to help you but you have sought not to take any of it, so there is little else I can do.
> 
>> instance
>> right?
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