[Openstack] Rackspace abandons Open vSwitch ?

Harshad Nakil hnakil at contrailsystems.com
Fri Oct 10 19:22:56 UTC 2014


Hi Damon,

OpenContrail and juniper contrail products are exactly same. All our
development happens in open source.

We are agnostic to underlying hardware. We can support hardware GW. This
can be any router that supports BGP MPLS L3VPN/EVPN. We have tested with
juniper MX and CISCO ASR.

On Data plane, OpenContrail supports MPLSoGRE, MPLSoUDP, VxLAN, (choice of
Encapsulation is automatically decided by transmitter based on reciever)
Control plane we support is BGP L3VPN and EVPN.

You can view comparision of performance with open source OVS at following
link presented at openstack summit at Atlanta
Download Slides
<https://www.openstack.org/assets/presentation-media/SDN-Performance-Evaluation-OS-Summit-v11-Final.pptx>

I have tested OpenContrail with 882 hypervisor, The small number is because
I am not expert at tuning Open-stack. In Simulations we have tested unto
2000 hypervisors.

We would love to get feedback from you for the features that you think are
missing from OpenContrail.

Regards
-Harshad


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Damon Wang <damon.devops at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Martinx,
>
> As far as I know OpenContrail lack some important features, some of them
> are rely on Contrail which the not opensource version and need to use
> Juniper's private hardware.
>
> And If you are face a public cloud, I can't find a better solution rather
> than VxLan.
>
> Regards,
> Damon
>
> 2014-10-10 10:17 GMT+08:00 Martinx - ジェームズ <thiagocmartinsc at gmail.com>:
>
>> Just for the record, I gave up on Neutron L3 Router, powered by GRE/VXLAN
>> tunnels. There are too many problems on this architecture.
>> I'm using Flat/VLAN Provider Networks right now (still with OpenvSwitch
>> but, no problems), I'm looking for a new solution (with IPv6), I'll take a
>> look at OpenContrail!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On 9 October 2014 20:35, Rudrajit Tapadar <
>> rudrajit.tapadar+osgen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At Symantec's Cloud Platform Engineering, we have deployed
>>> OpenStack+OpenContrail at a fairly large scale. I can't give you exact
>>> numbers, but you can get some data points from our SDN evaluation
>>> presentation in the Atlanta summit:
>>> https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/session-videos/presentation/software-defined-networking-performance-and-architecture-evaluation
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Raghu Vadapalli <rvatspacket at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/29/2014 01:52 PM, Tim Bell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are there any references for people running OpenContrail at scale ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Though reference are good to have, in general, L3 networks are known to
>>>> scale better than L2 networks.
>>>> Having said that, the complexity of two large frameworks  OpenStack +
>>>> OpenContrail working together nicely in
>>>> deployment is not known to me. Any ideas ?
>>>>
>>>>    *From:* NAPIERALA, MARIA H [mailto:mn1921 at att.com <mn1921 at att.com>]
>>>> *Sent:* 29 September 2014 19:26
>>>> *To:* dennisml at conversis.de
>>>> *Cc:* openstack at lists.openstack.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] Rackspace abandons Open vSwitch ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ……
>>>>
>>>>   > What are the alternatives though? As far as I know the regular
>>>> linux
>>>>
>>>> > bridge lacks most of the features of OVS and these are the only to
>>>>
>>>> > options I've played with so far. Is the a third alternative out there
>>>>
>>>> > that they've switched to?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One alternative is OpenContrail vRouter as ML3 plugin. It meets the
>>>> scale and feature requirements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maria
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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