[Openstack] Seeking Advice & Info for New Installation

Tom Fifield tom at openstack.org
Wed Oct 16 19:20:04 UTC 2013

On 17/10/13 00:41, Jonathan Proulx wrote:
> Welcome,
> Not sure about the docker support question, so I'll leave that to others
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Sarah Gerweck <sarah.a180 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is Havana still on track to be released in two days? Or is the release
>> calendar out of date? If Havana will really be out in two days I will
>> certainly wait. If Havana is coming late, does anybody have a best-guess
>> ballpark timeline? (A week? A month? A quarter? I promise not to complain if
>> it's inaccurate: I'm just trying to figure out if it would be worth
>> waiting.)
> The release engineering types will have a more specific answer, but
> OpenStack releases tend to be very much on time.  I haven't paid
> minute attention but if they haven't been precisely on time it's only
> varied by a few days.
>> If I want to install Havana before it's officially released, what's the best
>> way to do that? For the OS, is the Ubuntu server distro with bundled
>> OpenStack the best way to go? (That is my current inclination, as I want to
>> get this stuff working as quickly as possible—but I obviously don't want to
>> do anything stupid.)
> If Ubuntu is your OS of choice I'd recommend 12.04 with packages from
> their "cloud archive"
> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive , they even have a
> havana repo up (I'm using 12.04 and grizzly not sure what is in havana
> there)
>> Is there a good preview build of Ubuntu+OpenStack out there that has the
>> latest Havana builds or would I need to roll my own? (And how hard is this?)
> Using your configuration management system of choice is usually best,
> most have pretty good openstack support.  I'm most familiar with the
> puppet way.  Going completely roll your own isn't that bad, most
> people get hung up a bit on networking (even with community config
> modules or cook books).  This this is good for conceptual discussion
> about what implementation strategies meet your goals.  #openstack IRC
> on freenode is excellent for when you trip up trying to implement
> those plans and are trying to debug.
> There's lots of moving parts, but once you get use to the layout and
> terminology it's not too hard to find your way around.
>> If I were to install the current Ubuntu server distro with Grizzly, how hard
>> would it be to upgrade everything later? I won't have a big cluster or
>> anything: just a couple of very powerful boxes. (I wouldn't want to have to
>> recreate the VMs or reinstall the OS, but some downtime wouldn't be a
>> problem.)
> Given the short cycle I'd do the initial deploy and test with havana
> rc2 bits that are out now.  Named version upgrades don't require VM
> downtime though they do tend to disrupt the control plane (there's
> work to provide V-1 backwards compatibility so this goes away too, not
> sure how close or far that goal is), going from rc2 to release should
> be completely non disruptive.
>> I've never installed OpenStack before but I'm pretty good at figuring things
>> out. I'm sure I can read the manual when it comes time to do the actual
>> setup: I'm just looking for a little bit of information to help me figure
>> out what I want to set up.
> http://docs.openstack.org has lots of good stuff, though it can be
> challenging to know quite where to look.  Probably best to start with
> Install guide and then the admin guides.  Note that the page will
> point you to the grizzly docs but you can get to the latest pre-havana
> docs (which may be incomplete yet) by swapping the "grizzly" in the
> url with "trunk" for exmaple
> http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/

Install guides for Havana are at:


not yet ready, but close:


> -Jon
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