[Openstack] [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core

John Griffith john.griffith at solidfire.com
Wed Jul 17 18:35:52 UTC 2013

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Avishay Traeger <AVISHAY at il.ibm.com>wrote:

> -1
> I'm sorry to do that, and it really has nothing to do with Ollie or his
> work (which I appreciate very much).  The main reason is that right now
> Cinder core has 8 members:
> 1. Avishay Traeger (IBM)
> 2. Duncan Thomas (HP)
> 3. Eric Harney (RedHat)
> 4. Huang Zhiteng (Intel)
> 5. John Griffith (SolidFire)
> 6. Josh Durgin (Inktank)
> 7. Mike Perez (DreamHost)
> 8. Walt Boring (HP)
> Adding another core team member from HP means that 1/3 of the core team is

from HP.  I believe that we should strive to have the core team be as
> diverse as possible, with as many companies as possible represented (big
> and small alike).  I think that's one of the keys to keeping a project
> healthy and on the right track (nothing against HP - I would say the same
> for IBM or any other company).  Further, we appointed two core members
> fairly recently (Walt and Eric), and I don't feel that we have a shortage
> at this time.
> Again, nothing personal against Ollie, Duncan, HP, or anyone else.
> Thanks,
> Avishay
> From:   Duncan Thomas <duncan.thomas at gmail.com>
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> Date:   07/17/2013 06:18 PM
> Subject:        [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join
>             cinder-core
> Hi Everybody
> I'd like to propose Ollie Leahy for cinder core. He has been doing
> plenty of reviews and bug fixes, provided useful and tasteful negative
> reviews (something often of far higher value than a +1) and has joined
> in various design discussions.
> Thanks
> --
> Duncan Thomas
> Cinder Core, HP Cloud Services
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Just to point out a few things here, first off there is no guideline that
states a company affiliation should have anything to do with the decision
on voting somebody as core.  I have ABSOLUTELY NO concern about
representation of company affiliation what so ever.

Quite frankly I wouldn't mind if there were 20 core members from HP, if
they're all actively engaged and participating then that's great.  I don't
think there has been ANY incidence of folks exerting inappropriate
influence based on their affiliated interest, and if there ever was I think
it would be easy to identify and address.

As far as "don't need more" I don't agree with that either, if there are
folks contributing and doing the work then there's no reason not to add
them.  Cinder IMO does NOT have an excess of reviewers by a very very long

The criteria here should be review consistency and quality as well as
knowledge of the project, nothing more nothing less.  If there's an
objection to the individuals participation or contribution that's fine, but
company affiliation should have no bearing.
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