[Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?

Peter Cheung mcheung63 at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 30 09:16:49 UTC 2013


Thanks AlexisPeter

> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:37:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?
> From: alexis at rabbitmq.com
> To: mcheung63 at hotmail.com
> CC: clint at fewbar.com; openstack at lists.openstack.org; openstack at lists.launchpad.net
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Example of OpenStack with vSphere -
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2gBypQaxqk
> 
> alexis
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Peter Cheung <mcheung63 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Clint. If we treat VMWare as a neighbor, we meet another trouble, how
> > can we pack openstack and vmware into a single solution? what kind of
> > customer need such as solution?
> >
> > Compete with VMWare seems to be the right choice, openstack has a great
> > advantage in price and community. People may say vmware features are still
> > better, but we just need some more time to catch up. This is just my
> > opinion.
> >
> > from Peter
> >
> >
> >> From: clint at fewbar.com
> >> To: openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:13:13 -0700
> >> CC: openstack at lists.launchpad.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with
> >> VMWare?
> >
> >>
> >> Excerpts from Peter Cheung's message of 2013-07-29 07:29:10 -0700:
> >> > Dear Brian thanks for reply. May be because there is no cheap AIX, so
> >> > linux and AIX can be sell in different price range. But in here, the market
> >> > is : openstack compete with ESXi or ESX essential plus. We are a consultancy
> >> > firm, our sales are competing with VMware sales. In HK, vmware sales even
> >> > want us die. If we die, the only competitor left is microsoft.The war here
> >> > is very obvious.
> >>
> >> Hi Peter. I understand that at times, sales negotiations can be like war,
> >> with your client being the innocent bystanders caught in the middle.
> >>
> >> But markets are not war-zones. Wars intrinsically expend
> >> resources. Markets, however, grow resources and make things more
> >> efficient, until they are outmoded, and then they shrink naturally.
> >>
> >> So looking at VMware as a combatant on the field of battle, they are
> >> intimidating and evoke fear. I would not want to do battle with this
> >> well trained highly motivated battle group.
> >>
> >> If, however, we look at VMware as neighbors, the feelings are different. I
> >> believe that they're really just interested in developing the huge
> >> untapped resources which are basically unavailable to them without the
> >> cooperation and lower cost model of projects like OpenStack.
> >>
> >> To use an analogy, if VMware is FedEx, OpenStack is "people who want
> >> efficient roads and airports."
> >>
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