[Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?

Peter Cheung mcheung63 at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 29 16:52:46 UTC 2013

Thanks Clint. If we treat VMWare as a neighbor, we meet another trouble, how can we pack openstack and vmware into a single solution? what kind of customer need such as solution?
Compete with VMWare seems to be the right choice, openstack has a great advantage in price and community. People may say vmware features are still better, but we just need some more time to catch up. This is just my opinion.

from Peter

> From: clint at fewbar.com
> To: openstack at lists.openstack.org
> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:13:13 -0700
> CC: openstack at lists.launchpad.net
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with	VMWare?
> Excerpts from Peter Cheung's message of 2013-07-29 07:29:10 -0700:
> > Dear Brian     thanks for reply. May be because there is no cheap AIX, so linux and AIX can be sell in different price range. But in here, the market is : openstack compete with ESXi or ESX essential plus. We are a consultancy firm, our sales are competing with VMware sales. In HK, vmware sales even want us die. If we die, the only competitor left is microsoft.The war here is very obvious.
> Hi Peter. I understand that at times, sales negotiations can be like war,
> with your client being the innocent bystanders caught in the middle.
> But markets are not war-zones. Wars intrinsically expend
> resources. Markets, however, grow resources and make things more
> efficient, until they are outmoded, and then they shrink naturally.
> So looking at VMware as a combatant on the field of battle, they are
> intimidating and evoke fear. I would not want to do battle with this
> well trained highly motivated battle group.
> If, however, we look at VMware as neighbors, the feelings are different. I
> believe that they're really just interested in developing the huge
> untapped resources which are basically unavailable to them without the
> cooperation and lower cost model of projects like OpenStack. 
> To use an analogy, if VMware is FedEx, OpenStack is "people who want
> efficient roads and airports."
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