[Openstack] Nodejs in horizon

Joshua Harlow harlowja at yahoo-inc.com
Thu May 24 23:28:22 UTC 2012


Sure I agree with what u said, its a balance...

But it worries me when a commit pops up that I had to basically find, and then I get a reply from russell who works at RH that says nope fedora doesn't have it.

It seems like that reach u mentioned, wasn't occurring, idk, maybe that is the process, just more of notifying people/companies...

Something seems broken if that can happen. I agree its early, but why was it problem in the first place?

On 5/24/12 4:22 PM, "Devin Carlen" <devin at openstack.org> wrote:

-1 to introducing formal processes around this.  This will happen from time to time.  Development may be briefly impacted on other platforms but hindering innovation and telling developers that they are responsible for package availability across every distro is not healthy.

You are concerned about Fedora which is a perfectly reasonable stance.  But what about CentOS, RHEL, Debian, etc.

I for once don't want to have my technical options limited by whether or not a package is currently maintained by a distro.  We have a lot of reach into these communities and we are still in the earliest stages of Folsom.  There is plenty of time to deal with this.

That said, this is why we made this change in the *first* milestone, and not a week before release. ;)


Devin




On May 24, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:

Re: [Openstack] Nodejs in horizon
That's what I was worried about, and why I (just my opinion) think that we need to be a lot stricter about vetting new dependencies.

There needs to be time given to say, ensuring that its really needed, if it really is, documenting why it has to be there in depth, getting various PTL's to agree on that, then comes the process of informing and/or discussing with the distributions about how to get that supported (if it isn't). That second stage might influence the first and so on.

Since problems like this, although yes, it slows down development overall, seem necessary in a larger project with multiple distributions being enabled (for development usage and for actual prod. usage).

On 5/24/12 3:38 PM, "Russell Bryant" <rbryant at redhat.com <x-msg://602/rbryant@redhat.com> > wrote:

On 05/24/2012 03:40 PM, Devin Carlen wrote:
> Hi Joshua,
>
> Node.js is in the standard repos for most modern distros.  It's not an
> issue for Ubuntu/Fedora.

It actually is a problem for Fedora.  node.js is not in Fedora.  Once
Horizon requires node.js, it will be broken for Fedora (and EPEL for use
with RHEL and its derivatives).

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815018

--
Russell Bryant



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